Arudha Lagna
FAQ September 2nd, 2007 ARUDHA LAGNA
Prashant: I have Venus in 2nd from AL in Jaimini Sutras it is said it ll make person rich ? Whether it is true But i have Venus with sun and ketu in 2nd from AL will it will reduce The Potential of Yoga?Navamsa dignity of this grahas is important. debilitatin is very bad if is connected to 2H from AL, it can cause health issues and blockage to rajayogas. venus and ketu will show blood problems. Shoola dasa of malefics in 2H from AL is bad.
January 22nd, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Dear Rafal-ji, Namaskar.
Strong benefics in the 7th from AL is said to unlock the door to the world. I have Jupiter & Venus in Libra as the 7th from Aries AL;(& 5th from Gemini lagna). Sounds good to me,BUT Jupiter is bhadakesh & cursed by Saturn(with AL in Aries) and Rahu(in Aquarius). Also Venus is retrogade.[In D9 Jupiter(2nd) and Venus(12th) are in parivarthana.]
Will strengthening Jupiter/Venus have a beneficial or detrimental effect on my Arudha Lagna?
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With many thanks,
Priya
January 23rd, 2008 at 1:44 am
Dear Priya, Namaskar
Priya
Normally for Hindu, we advise Kali worship as on 1/7 axis from AL this is the biggest obstacle. Only Mangal give neechabhanga to Shani, but being with Chandra it will cause stress and short temper, but it can also give money.
Regards
Rafal Gendarz
January 23rd, 2008 at 9:37 am
Hi Rafal,
I was followingf the previous thread. I could not clearly understand the condition in which Kali worship is adviced. If the 7th from AL has a host of malefics and very strong curses then in that case should Kali worship be adviced? Please clarify.
-Regards
Rajesh
January 23rd, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Dear Rajesh, Namaskar
In this chart it was Shani debilitation.
Malefics in first bhava from AL we cure by Agni worship, in seventh - by Surya worship.
Regards
Rafal Gendarz
January 24th, 2008 at 7:51 am
Hi Rafal,
Got it, thanks for explaining -:)
-Regards
Rajesh
January 30th, 2008 at 8:37 am
||hare ramakrishna||
dear Rafal,
1] Benefics in 3rd and 6th from AL gives rise in spirtuality.Is it because of 3rd[parakrama] benefics give a non-violent approach and in 6th[shadripus]helps in getting rid of it.please give your point of view.
2]what does 8th from al signifies?
Thanking you.
Your eternal wellwisher,
arnab
January 30th, 2008 at 10:08 am
Hi Arnab,
8th AL in general should signify the health or more importantly how the health of the native is percieved by the world at large. Also what kind of inheretence will or will not be acquired. Agin this is a very generic thing which gets modified based on the exact rasi and planets involved.
Again being the 8th house, it also indictes 8th house related matters including unkown and even the kundalini shakti. But that of course depends on teh planets, yogas and rasi of the 8th. Moon is bad in the 8th from AL. Benefic here indicate robust health. Also 8th from AL helps in transofrmatin of the native, depending on the various planets/rasis involved. Say for example someone with scorpio in 8th from AL having mars-guru combination and also other supporting spiritual combination will at some point delve deep into aghor/tantra sadhanas. I have seen a chart like this. So basically it depends.
I’m sure Rafal can clarify this better.
-Regards
Rajesh
January 30th, 2008 at 11:23 am
hare ramakrishna,
dear rajesh,
my 2nd question is very much related to the 1st one whereby benefics in 3rd and 6th produces a spirtual person.But what does 8th from AL signifies with respect to spirtuality.What you have given is very much the fundamentals of arudha.Thank you very much.
however since my understanding says the 3rd and 6th from AL deals with the tamasic karakas whereby 8th from AL deals with the sustenence of the arudha.
so can exalted benefics here given any sort of direction to spirtuality like in 3rd or 6th from AL.
As said in your post.moon is bad being the karak for arudhas.
i hope rafal will add to this.Thanks Rajesh,really appreciate your efforts.
Awaiting your thoughts on this(Rafal)
your eternal wellwisher,
arnab.
January 30th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
HI Arnab,
I believe just by itself an exhalted benefic would not do much spiritual growth, for that other connections need to be build. For example if jupiter happens to be in the 8th from AL then it aspects the 12th from AL as well, and that is the house which can draw energy from the nil shaktis. However all this will happen only if the chart itself and the native himself is doign spiritual efforts, hence this is not the first primary yoga for spirituality. By itself it may not be of much help but this planet connected with otehr arudhas and/or aspects can make a whole world of difference. Unlike in the A3 and A6, A8 placement of benefic wont directly just by itself make any significant difference to the natives spiritual growth.
My knowledge of jyotish is very limited and what I said may not be correct. Rafal I suppose would be teh best person to answer this. Its a very good question by the way.
Also which planet are you talking about specifically? Kindly provide some more details.
-Regards
Rajesh
January 30th, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Dear aRNAB, Rajesh, Namaskar
I’m glad to see this important topic being discussed.
First I would like to clear out one thing: pravraja yoga doenst neccessarly grant spirituality. It hits negatively material aspect of life, which can inspire for spirituality or other aspect of rejection the world.
For this we should see guna of nakshatras involved. Satvic nakshatras shows the mind which is ready to easily give up and engaged in satvic way of living ie. spiritualism. This also demands other spiritual yogas in chart. Normally such people suffer in some area of life and slowly turn into some kind of internal life. That yoga (pravraja) will attract situation which inspire to move into that direction.
Now addressing your query: benefics in 1,2,4,5,8,10 from Arudhapada are benefitting the native with material goods, opposite for malefics. So in that scenario malefics in eight bhava from Arudhapada are in category of Pravraja yoga. Finally I can provide few charts with Me and Ve strong in 3/6 from Arudhapada and those kind of people can be quite atheistic or not interested in uplifting the conciosness. Its also important, thereby I want to repeat myself - these benefics must be strong either in Rasi or Navamsa. Otherwise they are capable of bringing material goods also. So its not advisable to rely solely on Arudhapada to judge one’s spiritual level or direction.
8 from AL is called swa-arudha, and it shows how we transform. Benefics in that position shows comfortable and easily transformation, while malefics will show some kind of shocking or extreme change. This placement also shows how others will see our death (3 from AL show real cause). It also controls fatal accidents (when dusthamarana yoga are influencing), health and wealthwise setbacks. Usually malefics in eight from AL makes one indebted, the same is for eigth bhava from Dasa Rasi.
There are few more things but I think that explains the doubts arisen.
Regards
Rafal Genda
January 30th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
||Hare ramakrishna||
Dear Rafal,rajesh,
Thanks a lot.Well rafal,i am fortunate to learn a lot from rohinaa.com.Yes,what you have said is very true that pravrajya yoga doesnt necessarly gives spirtuality and other yogas should be there to support it.
you have wonderfully explained the above querries.
A chart analysis includes the judging of planets from lagna ,from AL and the GRAHA ARUDHA with respect to lagna.
Please correct me here if i am wrong –{ the AL shows how the perception of people wheras GRAHA ARUDHA shows the perception of native about himself or situation of his personal life.}
my question is if during the mahadasha of the planet which is well placed from arudha lagna and its graha arudha is in dusthan from lagna or vice versa — what will be the results .
Is it like the world feels the native is very sucesfull wheras the native is unhappy. Please explain??
your eternal wellwisher,
arnab
January 30th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
Dear aRNAB, Namaskar
Thank You for Your appreciation. Im happy if You will make some progress due to this site.
You can experiment with graha arudha, but definitely this tool is not on the top of my list, while analyzing a chart. Instead I would replace this with analyzing Karaka Lagna. Now we define three shaktis for Lagna (kriya), Arudha (jnana) and Atmakaraka (iccha). If You add here Argala principle, then You can judge impact of Yogas and their timings.
Nevertheless, I was taught instead that Graha arudhas show i) impact of other people on us b) our image which we are not fully concious of.
If You want to analyze world/circumstance vs. own feelings/desires then I recommend working on Narayana Dasa vs. Udu dasa respectively.
Regards
Rafal Gendarz
January 30th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
Namaskar Rafal Ji,
I have Pisces Arudha and Sun is 3 rd house from Arudha lagna and Sat+Jup+Mars in 6 house and Ketu in 11 House .
Could u please elaborate does this malefic planets in upchayas house indicates somethng.
Does merc and venus in gemini in 4 house from arudha indicates some aspects.
looking forward from u
may god bless u
regards
kevin
January 31st, 2008 at 7:24 am
Hi Rafal,
Just read you replied. Really wonderful. You have actually hit the nail on the head. To find a clear direction of spiritual progress one must many supporting yogas/strength in the main lagna/rasi chart itself. Otherwise it can be suspect case.
You have mentioned that the lagna arudha and AK are the three levels of shaktis. So what happens when the lagnesh, lord of arudha lagna and AK combine or aspect each other? Does this indicate depending on the signs and bhava, the specific area of life where the focus will be and achievement will come?
Also what does this indicate about spirituality?
-Regards
Rajesh
January 31st, 2008 at 8:24 am
Respected Sir,
Sir, the above topic of spiritualisam from AL was really interesting. I am just in the process of learning this noble science.
Sir, suppose Lord Saturn is in the 8th from AL and if he is debiliated and also if he is the Atmakaraka for the Jathakha, how it should be interpreted. How this positioning would affect the spiritual growth.
Thanks and Regards,
K.Lakshman
February 1st, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Dear Rafal-ji,
On the topic of the 8th from AL, what if a benefic therin is in parivarthana with a malefic in the 6th from AL? Will that give the results of a malefic/benefic 8th?? Also is the Sun considered a malefic from the AL point of view?
You have mentioned 8th bhava from Dasa Rasi also makes one indebted. Is that Narayan Dasa? And how will the 8th therefrom be stimulated….malefic transits ???
Thank YOu,
Priya
February 2nd, 2008 at 7:57 pm
Dear Kevin, Rajesh, K.Lakshman, Priya, Namaskar
Kevin
Yes, usually malefics in sixth bhava will tempt You to use bad means to get the things done.
There is curse of Guru in sixth from Arudhapada and You are at risk to ignite the struggle which will activate the curse. After that You will find Yourself in bad circumstances as the curse will overwhelm You. It is advised to correct this situation through Upayas (Vedic Remedies).
Every malefic in 3/6 from Arudhapada shows some strategy. Surya and Mangal shows Danda, Shani, bad Budha, Rahu shows manipulations. Involvement in all this will make You lost the proper guidance of intellect, as karaka of Guru will suffer. I feel that this should answer Your question.
Rajesh
Lord of Lagna/AL shows Your attitude and action. Knowledge of these three shakti’s are used with argala principle. If yoga has argala on Lagna, Arudhapada and Atmakaraka its fully potent to influence Your name and reputation giving unobstructed rajayoga related to particular Yoga.
K.Lakshman
If strong malefic is situated in 4 or 10 from Arudhapada is granting pravrajayoga then also debilitated malefic in eight from Arudhapada must give Rajayoga. But there is no guarantee that this yoga will not give health or financial ups and downs during its Dasa. I have chart with Mangal in Gemini (close to Cancer - so very close to neecha) in eigth from Arudhapada. In dasa of this planet native had very serious buisness problems/transformation associated with debts. This mangal was involved in curse of Budha-Ak, so the Jyotirlinga Malikarjuna Mantra rescued the native from serious damage.
Priya
If You deal with Parivartana, just think about transformation. This can involve Yourself (when L,LL,AL are involved) or relevant areas of life. Here we see that both positions are auspicious from Arudhapada, so courageous stance will take You out of debts provided there are no other doshas involved.
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
April 21st, 2008 at 12:21 am
Hi Rafal Ji,
Malefics in AL really show image , example saturn in AL does it show a person financially poor or adamant or very strict? If Rahu is in AL how will be the image like cheater? foreigner?
What is the remeady to break such a bad image? Thanks
April 22nd, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Hi Rafal Ji,
I have both Saturn & Mars as 6th and 8th lord in AL in gemini. What does malefic in AL shows..
Regards,
Dharminder
July 5th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Dear Rafalji,
namaskar,
i have capricorn ascendant and saturn is in 11th house. so the arudha lagna is in 9th house. sun and ketu are in 9th house and rahu is in 3rd house. lord of 3rd house jupiter is in second house. what kind of obstacles it cause to the arudhalagna.
regards,
manasi