Dear Rafal,
I have read the pdf. In my case Sy is 12th from Karakamsha(Kumbha). However, I was advised to pray Narayana with Ashtakshari for Saturn as my ID.
The reason being, look for Ishta devata, dharma devata and palana devata planet in Navamsha chart, and see is there any planet who connects all three important points. Than we should check if that planet is in 1st, 5th, 7th or 9th house in Navamsha as planets placed there can be worshiped; and the third point is to find link with Ketu because if there is no link with Ketu we will not believe that there is God there in that deity.
In my case, though Sy is in 12th from Karakamsha, Sa lording 12th from Karakamsha, is placed in 5th , having rashi drishti on Dharma devata and phalana devata signs (and Ketu). Hence it is easy for me to worship Narayana as my Ishta devata.
My personal experience though being, I love worshipping Rama.
Surya is in Jeevanmuktamsa Rasi which shows Ramachandra or Shiva. Your arguments about 1) trikona in Navamsa and 2) planets touched by Ketu are very right - therefore sadhana for Sri Narayana will be the best for You.
If You feel the attraction for Sri Ramachandra then You should continue it.
dear rafal,
a very neat and a meaningful contribution to jyotish and students of astrology on ishta devta from you.Congratulations and best wishes on that.We do expect more of it from you.
however, there is one question i would like to raise which is what do we infer when lagna lord of rasi itself becomes the ishta devta
2]Its said that when 12th from ak - planet present there is retrograde -how does one appease the ishta as retrograde planets takes quite an effort from the native for appeasement.
A retrograde graha in 12th from karakamsa can indeed mean that God requires three times as much effort from you in worship. If there are any other points on this issue I hope Guru Ji will explain that. Thank you for nice words on my article.
1. If Lagnesh and Lagna is connected to ID then lesson will be directly related to our personality, fame and health. That means Ishta sitting on our head. Ishta Devata in D1 shows area of weakness of AK (Sanjay Rath/Serbija 2006). This however differs from 6 from Karaka Lagna which also shows weakness (this one is taking one away from God). You can see also relation between ID and AK in D20, to see how easily You get the blessings of Your Deity due to Sadhana performed.
2. It also shows unusual/very unique perspective of God. Sanjay Rath in Jaimini US says that this bhava shows Loka after death (page 74).
Dear Rafalji,
Plz advise me on this,
CHART D/1:LAGNA LIBRA,3 RD-MARS, 5-RAHU+MOON,7-SAT(R)(MAY BE IT’S GETTING THE NEECHBHANGA),11-VENUS+KETU,12-MER(R)+SUN+JUP.
So this person karakamsa is in Gemini, 12 th from it is Taurus n Venus is in it.So this person ’s ID is Maa Laxmi.He should pray to Parasuram (om namoh bhagabate Hrishikesaya).Am I correct ?
But this person Prays to Shiva,Gauri n Durga.Also Learning Astrology.He’s currently running under Sat+Sat Dasa.
Plz give two lines on this chart.(comments n advise ,if any)
Chandra is aspecting Jivanmuktaamsa Rasi (12H from KK), therefore Durga and Gouri. That still is very good. But technically You are right about Lakshmi. Lord Shiva is Dharma Devata.
Dear Rafalji,
Namaste,
Thanks for your guidance.
Anyway,it may not be relevant to mention here,but tell us something about D-10 chart,Role of Arudha in the Dasamsa Chakra.
dear rafal,
All i can say is just few words of praises for this valuable contribution towards the spreading of jyotish.I have some questions with the role of different deities that we see in our navamsa chart.
1]should the dharma devta be always in the vishnu form or one can even worship shiva as dharma devta as its Vishnu who represents dharma.
2]if one is aspiring to be disciple of a spirtual guru.Does the native has to worship the guru devta.I request you to shed some light on gurudevta as not much has been said about it.How does one propitiates the planet representing the gurudevta in navamsa so that one meets the spirtual guru.Which form should one take.
can you please shed some light on my gurudevta”
10th dec,1984..18:09hrs..kolkata,India.
i have mars as my guru devta but aspected by sun and saturn.Since it relates with leo ,should i take it as lord hanumana as he was the devotee of suryavanshi rama or someother form is aspected like lord bhairav or vishnu avtaar.
thanks and regards,
1. As it lords ninth bhava its related to Guru who rules Akash Tattwa. Devata of Akash Tattva is Vishnu, so Dharma Devata should be related to Vishnu bhava, but choice of Deity is very individual and depends on Marga/Path.
2. Spiritual Guru is more related to Guru Devata (signified by BK in D9). I advice You to recite Om Gurave Namah 3 malas daily, this will be highly auspicious for this issue. Im happy that You are serious about Guru diksha.
3. Moon in Lagna gives usually tendency towards bhakti (jalatattva), lagnesh in seventh confirms the same, but yuti of Guru shows that You will have good guidance, otherwise natives with Lagnesh in seventh are very confused in life. A5 with Shukra also shows Devi (based on karakaparivartana). While Shani in fifth and Budha as Ishtadevata shows path to Narayana/Vishnu. Buddha lording 4 from AL and with Guru shows belonging to spiritual organization, and as second bhava shows Kutumbha (Phaldeepika) this can make You quite famous (Lagna) - maybe more when You will be abroad (Ra Nakshatra lord in 12H and Lagnesh in badhaksthana with badhakesh-benefic). Mars is alone as BK so it will show Hanuman/Rudra/Narasimha/Skanda…in Simha I think Rudra. Jupiter in fifth from Shani in D9 will make You interested in Scriptures, while Surya in ninth will show good knowledge of mantra (Jaimini/Parasara). Ishta Devata is lording 4H so it shows form of Devi (Tripura) or bhakti towards Vishnu/Narayana. I pray that this information will help You in Your spiritual journey.
dear Rafal,
i am just speechless and dont know how to thank you for your guidance.I can just pray to God that he blesses you with more fame,name and makes you more spirtually advanced.May lord Narayana’s grace be with you.
Very interesting posts regarding the AK and BK. Now I had some doubts which I could not understand. When the dasa of the BK is in progress should not the native attain a spiritual guru if he is so inclined? In the following chart 14th may 1980, 8:00 pm calcutta, mars is teh BK. And mars dasa is over but there has been no advent of guru although this individual is quite spiritually inclined.
Right now, a few days back he had an initiation into yoga. Could you kindly tell me how was this possible astrologically? I somehow believe that when his rahu/mars comes he will find his real guru. Also saturn is in lagna in d20, and saturn rules yoga, so could that be the reason he was initiated into yoga in this rahu/saturn period?
Also what kindly throw some light on the meaning of AK rahu being with amk shani and bk mars in D1.
1. If the BK dasa is going on then sibling/Guru can suffer. Otherwise BK must be quite strong to avoid it. Charakarakas shows spiritual lesson, but for spirituality see AK-dasa.
2. The Guru comes when ninth from Karakamsa is activated.
3. How You know Vimsamsa Lagna is accurate? In D3 third lord is in Tapaswi Yoga in eieght bhava which gives spiritual actions in His life. Tenth lord from Moon and Lagna is influenced by AmK+AK yoga which is very good for career. At the same time there is curse of Guru, so mixed results. He is in Shani which is influenced by dispositors of A5 and A9. Drigadasa is of Mesha which aspects these two planets also (Shani and Guru).
He will have extremes in His life, focused completely on spirituality or work. When the curse will be over and He will find good job then the spirituality can be weakened.
Is he the eldest or youngest in family?
Shukra in eigth makes sanyasis. Also Meena Navamsa Lagna is an option, then He can be quite wealthy in some point of time.
dear rafal,
i came across a chart of native who is a disciple of probably the greatest guru in modern india ie sri ramakrishna paramhansa .The natives name is swami sardananda and he is also the brother disciple of swami vivekananda.
i thereby present the birth details of the revered disciple of sri ramakrishna
swami sardananda
Natal Chart
Date: December 23, 1865
Time: 18:32:00
Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)
Place: 88 E 22′ 00″, 22 N 34′ 00″
Kolkata, India
Altitude: 0.00 meters
some notable events in this persons life
1]had his upnayana or thread ceremony of brahmin youth in the year of 1877
2]met his guru for the 1st time in october 1883.
3]went to england in april 1896 and joined vivekananda in april end to spread the message of vedanta.june 1896 went to america to do the same.
was appointed as the general secretary of ramakrishna math and headed this post for nearly 30years[1898-1927].
although propogated vedanta in the west but was known for absolute devotion to the consort of sri ramakrishna ie sri maa sharada devi and was the very 2nd after yogananda who could serve mother freely for 15years.
as far as i see here. the nakshatra lord of moon - rahu being with al in 3rd house did give him lot of name in foreign land especially america whereby he delivered public lectures and earned a noble reputation of being a holy man.
in navamsa there is a yog of ak and bk ie mars and saturn and saturn being the lord of 12th from ak is with mars the ak and his attachment was to his guru whom he worshipped as god incarnated.Also three planets including mokshkarak ketu ,venus and moon are 12th from ak.MARS being the ak is also the dharmadevta is in 9th house.
venus being the amk and 6th from it the cancer and moon being its lord is 12th from ak.
from the above combination can we infer the soul to be of very highly elivated spirtually.
both saturn and mars are powerfully placed in rasi chart .
however my doubt is moon being in mks in 8th house and lagna lord ???doesnt it shows a sort of weakness here.
when i tried to see the meeting of the native with his guru in october 1883.using the drigdasha the native is running pisces>> virgo>>libra in oct1883
OR
we should also see the narayana dasha of d20 chart,am not touching the d20 chart although the timings are accurate somehow the change of d20 lagna in 5secs may give a different outlook here.i leave it your expertise to higlight what would be the d20 lagna ,aries or taurus.
do give your view regarding the above chart.
i hope we all can learn from your analysis…
the source of this chart is from ramakrishna mission and the book published by sri ramakrishna mission called as the 16monastic disciples of sri ramakrishna -GOD LIVED WITH THEM…
Hi Rafal thanks a lot for the analysis.. I asked the person concerned and found out that he does not have any brother or sister. You are right that vimsamsa lagna may not be accurate.
So he will stick to the yogic practises as long as the curse lasts?
Also do you think during rahu/mars he may get another initiation?
-Thanks again
Rajesh
1. Yes, that was also my guess (about sibling), see Shukra influence on 3/11 from AL.
2. When AL is on Ra/Ke then one can be very extreme between bhoga and moksha.
Thanks again for the analysis. Yes you are correct, AL on ra/ketu axis with ra as AK is very extreme. I got very confused with this chart specially trying to figure out about istha devata.. it would be great if you could direct me to some material for gaining mroe knowledge about the use of Atmakarakas. Ra atmakaraka seems to me like someone who will cheat or maybe dishonest.
Anyway thanks a lot for your help.
-Rajesh
Thanks again for the information. I had a question regarding the D3, which D3 should be seen? Parasara or Jagannath?.. also does the placement of 3rd lord of d3 show the purpose of the life for the individual?
In the chart in navamsa the 12th from karakamsa is meena, whos lord jupiter is sitting with mars and is aspected by venus. So the Istha devata will be a form of vishnu? Maybe even Jesus considering that meena is involved?
hi rafal
with due respects to what rajesh said about the ishtadev being 12th from ak ie meena rasi…a jaltatva rasi now its aspected by jaltatva karaka venus by rasi dristi..
1- ista devta planet is jupiter as no planets are there in pisces and no planets are aspecting by graha drishti
2-jupiter is conjoined with mars and there is a mutual aspect of venus.Howevers doesnt mars dominates here being the 9th lord and higher in degreees and more stronger in rasi chart.
jupiter indicates shiva and mars in odd sign shows rudra, narasimha ,skanda.
The presence of guru-mangal yoga doesnt it indicates a fierce form of guru like rudra or bhairava… would love to see your views on this ….
Moon is in Saturnine sign in D1,D3,D9 and aspected only by Shani (rasidrsti) (Parasara/Saravali). Atmakara is in Meenaamsa. Surya has Argala on AK and Vargotam Lagnesh. Ke/Gu aspects on AL (treat like Karakaamsa - Parasara) gives knowledge by inheritance - Parasara. Ke in 12H from Karakamsa aspected by ONLY benefics gives mukti (see Kumbha Rasi D9). Shukra is in third from AL in Satvic nakshatra. Surya is in tenth in Jagannath Drekkana with 3L.
1/Planets in vargottam have the strength of mrtyunjaya mantra so no weakness here, as dispositor is also in Sesa Yoga (read Saravali about weakness and streght of Moon).
2/Yes, foreign influence is there - also look at D3.
3/ Meeting Guru - Guru-Shukra period. Shukra is with Ketu (9L from Karakaamsa).
Rajesh
Jagannath Drekkana.
Yes 12L is with Mangal, so like Arnab wrote: Rudra, Narasimha, Shanda. Guru is also Dharmadevata so it can be form of Vishnu - Sri Narasimha. Worshipping Guru would be also very good - BK.
Thanks both of you for your very valued inputs. I will surely inform this person to do worship or either Narasimha, Skandha or Rudra.
He told me he does puja of Lord Krishna and has been doing yogic practices for quite some time.
Thanks once again. This is a really wonderful website.
dear rafal,
i guess it was rajeev who praised your site although i too feel great to participate and must say the site is doing a very wonderful work with regards to astrology.
in mr.adi’ case , ketu is rasi vargottam in d9 and mangal being the ak -12th from it is ketu.
ketu gives final emanicipation to the soul. jaimini sutra(1.2.69)
do correct me if i go wrong rafal,doesnt ketu indicates vedamurthi or ganesha however since this is aspected by sun from 5th house this could mean lord shiva as the ishtadevta of the native.
awaiting your reply.
I was reading about curses that you had written in a community. You mentioned there that in case the AK is involved in a curse, then only the puja of the atmalinga can help. What is the atmalinga? And how does one do puja or atmalinga or is there any mantra for it?
dear rajesh,
atmalinga is the linga form of shiva who is worshipped as per the placement of ak in rasi chart.
mesha — rameshwaram
vrishabh– somnath
mithun — nageshwar
karka — omkarareshwar
simha — vaidyanath
kanya — malikarjuna
thula — mahakaleshwara
vrishik — grushmeshwara
dhanu — vishwanath
makar — bhimashankar
kumbha — kedaranath
meena — trayambakeshwara
the mantra is followed by shiv panchakshari mantra of om namah shivaya namah[name of the jyotirlinga in which ak is placed]
dear rafal,
if ak is involved in a curse or severely afflicted , arent we suppose to worship the atmalinga form of the rasi where ak gets exalted to reduce the sufferings.
awaiting your valuable insight.
Ad.singh
Your ishtadevata is Sri Ganesha. This Ketu aspected by two benefics gives chances of Moksha. This Ketu sits in third bhava with A7, so sexuality must be overcomed as the weakness will come from this side.
1. Are You the eldest in family, and one younger brother or rather sister who is enterprising and wants to be in foreign land? Does Younger sibling has some stomach problem?
2. Did You have some skin problmes like boils/ulcers?
You should wear yellow saphire and think about consulting/teaching. That will bring fame and success.
aRNAB
Yes, Mukti-sloka is also in BPHS (34.63).
But Surya aspects it through grahadrsti, so it will be only in Dasa of Surya. Otherwise, Sk+Sa aspecting Ke gives tapaswi sadhana. Native will have very mystical outlook on God and spirituality, but the God must be embodiment of goodness and mercy (fifth bhava in D1). So all grahas aspecting twelfth bhava are guiding towards moksha. But it must be rasidrsti.
aRNAB and Rajesh
Atmalinga and Jyotirlinga are different. Atmalinga is for taking out of bandhana, this is related to Luminaries, Rahu and Tattvas (Shiva Purana). Here we have: Sarwa, Bhava, Rudra, Ugra, Bhima, Pasupati, Ishana, Mahadev.
Jyotirlingas are for perfection, full knowledge and resources (making grahas LIKE exalted). If AK is involved we should use Jyotirlinga mantra connected to exaltation-rasi for that planet.
dear rafal,
thanks again for giving us a clear approach on the ak and atmalinga.i am really becoming addicted to visit this site.Thanking you again.God bless.
Thanks for reply . i have one elder brother and youger sister ,father retd from highest post .Elder brother is unemployed ,divorce ,home sick (remain at home ) and yes younger sis is one of the few specialist doctor in u.s.a ( well settled )as per the youngest sibling ,as he is just one year old i can[t say if he is he having stomachs problem , though i have some mole on skin but have not having any skin problems like boils/ulcers. further i by profession a lawyer (advocate ).my marriage date is 11 march 2000. two sons (july 2004& 8jan 2007) i am very much intrested in share market (though with less luck on my side )so i some time doubt that my birth time may be 07.09 am ,Now it is up to u to decide
aRNAB
Hopefully this addiction will make You better and better with Jyotish.
Ad.singh
1. Oh.lawyer. Thats what the Jupiter (d1,d3,d10) is indicating in Your chart, very good choice. 7:11 seems fine as Jupiter would be in Martial sign in sixth bhava in Dasamsa.
2. Reg siblings: Its clear that younger sister will be very good settled abroad, im happy that this worked out here. She is doctor due to Ju-Mo Yoga in fifth bhava in D3.
Reg elder sibgling Shukra is aspecting 11 from AL, but Jupiter seems rescuing due to lordship of Dhanus. Now Jupiter is with Chandra in Libra, does he has good qualities, controlled, well-mannered, independent, sensitive and focused on profession/money?
Marriage time: 11 March 2000. Was this your 2nd relationship?
I must admit that its hard to justify with these two times birth of sons from first or second relationship..maybe it was third? is it possible? if not I think we should change the time..
Thanks once again! Just a personal question. How long have you been into jyotish? Your knowledge in jyotish is really exceptional. I learnt a lot of things just by reading you answers to various questions. Thank you once again.
Thank You for Your cudos. Im happy that the goal of this site goes on by spreading the highest knowledge of Jyotish given by the Sri Achyuta Parampara. Im putting Your words at the feet of my Jyotish Guru.
Went through the lineage section. You are a student of Visti Laren. Wonderful, I have been reading his articles and analysis for quite some time now and I find him to be truely a guru in jyotish. Once again my highest regards for both of you. You guys are doing a terrific job of educating and enlightening other astrologers into the deeper aspects of jyotish. Thanks once again.
Rafal you have been into western astrology. What is the major difference between the two? Why cannot western astrology predict the future with the kind of accuracy that jyotish has? Waiting your comments on this.
Western astrology uses different zodiac, its much more simplified. Jyotish comes from Vedas, therefore its perfect, whilst Western Astrology is the disorted shade of it much more based on research than anything else. Depth and broadness of Vedic version of Jyotish has no equals in the world - Dasasa, Vargas, Yogas, Nakshatras, Arudhas, Argalas, Asthakavarga - these unique methods belongs to Vedanga. REAL Jyotish is holistic - therefore its connected with Ayurveda, Vedic Philosophy, Omenology, Swapna Shastra, Numerology and many many more. While the astrology branch of other traditions are much seperated from others subjects and areas of life. Jyotish is a science for helping people in higher mystical sense than just advicing about marriage, family and money. Access to past life and subconcious part of human beings allows us to guide on all levels of existence which is lacking in other tradition. When You will really dive into Vedic Wisdom everything else will become little more shallow. Kalyana Varma (Saravali) appreciaties Yavanas but still all of them crop up from the same source rooted in Vedanga.
Of course this is very sensitive topic, therefore I dont like to make some hard judgments, but I allow myself to glorify our tradition because we feel we discovered something SPECIAL.
I am new to Vedic Astrology, so I hope you won’t mind my ignorance on this matter. Even though I’ve read a few things on karakamsa, certain ideas still continue to baffle me.
#1 My AK is venus. I looked at my chart to find that my 12th from karakamsa is scorpio containing ketu and Jupiter. Ketu has the highest degree, so I am assuming Matsya would be my Ishta Devata?
#2 I read in one of Sanjay Rath’s articles that ketu, if placed 12th from Karakamsa alongside a benefic (as in my case), will confer higher lokas (or moksha, I am not sure), or something to that effect. Can Rafal and other experts expand on this, so we can get a better idea?
I’d greatly appreciate a response on this, rather than a link explaining it.
All these concept are nicely and fully explained by Parasara Rsi in Karakaamsa chapter. Whole set of planets connected to Ketu ignites spirituality oriented on PARAM GATI - moksha. How to be sure here? Look on houses which are lorded by these planets in jivanmuktamsa rasi. Best if You can choose Deity which connects these two grahas, otherwise choose Deva represented by Jupiter, and with Ketu it will give You moksha, per Jaimini and Parasara statement.
I agree with your comments. Yes jyotisha is far more wholistic in nature and in comparison western astrology often seems mere psychological.
I have one more doubt. Why did the ancient Rishi’s not make use of the outer planets. I have seen in many cases that presense of say neptune or pluto does affect an individuals nature greatly, neptune making it dreamy and fanciful. Kindly explain is point Rafal.
Thanks for your valuable input. It helps a lot in understanding the intricacies of VA.
I did go through those passages, where karakamsa was explained and I found it to be a little diff. from what Mr. Rath has posted on his blog. That’s why I posted my doubts, in order to get it clarified.
For instance, Parashara has three conditions for moksha, namely ketu in 12th from KK, Ketu in dhanus/mesha, plus ketu conjuct (or aspected) by benefic. Whereas, Rath’s analysis of Ramakrishna’s chart (I think, but am not too sure) says ketu conjunct benefic from 12th alone would suffice, provided it’s placed in 12th from KK, regardless of the sign. How to reconcile these apparent contradictions, then? That’s the source of my confusion.
Regarding my own positions of ketu and Ju (both placed in 12th from karakamsa in scorpio), is it good from a spiritual point of view or moksha? I’d very much like to know.
Again, thanks so much for taking the time to clarify these doubts.
Rajesh
The number of planets is important (9*12=108). Jyotish system is so complete that You cant deduct or add something accorging to Your whims. Otherwise You must also add to three gunas, saptadhatus, saptarasa, saptaloka, type of letters, varnas and many more. Therefore outer planets are not recognized as grahas (which can grasp our minds) if You want to follow tradition. There are many doubts about the Pluto in the scientific world due to some recent discoveries.
Suresh
Generally Jivanmuktaamsa should be occupied by Ketu+benefics. The same applies to forth from Karakaamsa (Gati). There are also many more like Dasa running when native pass away (for mukti it should touch meena or cancer rasi in Navamsa). There should be also Brhaspati influence like a) sg/pi signs b) bhavas which Guru is karaka c) Drsti of Guru on Ishta Deva Planet. This is to ensure that native doesnt worship dark spirits. The FINAL say has Punya Chart, otherwise what is the importance of deeds and sadhana in this life when we can predict mukti when You were born.
Ju+Ke are excellent in jivanmuktaamsa rasi, but there are also other points.
Was a little busy so could not reply earlier. But yes I see your logic. Also, maybe, teh orbits of the outer planets are so far off from the earth that their magnetic effects on us do not cause any major remarkable percievable changes in our lives. So maybe from this point of view and if we consider the nine planets as the channels through which the various natures of karma are distributed back to every soul/self, these outer planets are too far off to actually cause any karmic effect on us.
Rajesh
Nope. Jyotish science doesnt accept that theory. Its not based on any of physical effects. Otherwise how You will justify Varga-Yogas which give effects based on 1) divisions of space (rasi is distance) and relation based on that divided points. There is other part of astrology which is related to physical forces (this can be used for sowing/planting - paksha of moon) but Hora Jyotish has its own holistic system which is very technical and was created from Deva’s Perfect Mind. All is related to numbers like I wrote before.
Respected Guruji,
Namaskar.
You have described worshipping Atmalinga for removing Bandhana yogas. What should be the atmalinga form for KAY with Ketu ending the yoga in Meena? Guru with Shani in Dhanus in my chart?
The list of Atmalingas given by you are in what order of the tatvas?
Please shed some light on these.
Regards
Nalini
Well even divisions of space creating a yoga can be very well explained. Every bit of space in this universe does contain frm a very physical point of view energy as well as dark matters. They have their own intrinsic magnetism. It depends a lot of the curvature of the space/time matrix in that specific area. Which is why in case of a naked singularity or a black hole or even at the initial point of the big bang, curvature of space time is said to be mathematically reach a point of infinity which creates such an infinite amount of gravitational pull that even light signals cant escape. This space time curvature is the reasons why planets have their gravitational pull. So the point is even space by which we generally mean lack of visible objects also has its own undeniable effects. I think the ancient Rishis, the seers, who were incredibly wise beings “saw” and “understood” these spacial magnetism and deviced the yogas based on the points of special space time curvature apart frm theg normal planetary influences. Energy can of course never be seen, its only the effects caused by the energy which are visible, concievable and measurable (in some cases). We do not see the flowing of energy in case of electromagetism but its existence cannot be contested. So the point is energy exists and works in ways which are often not percieable by the ordinary five senses. But its effects definitely are. And as Lahiri Mahasaya used to say which is also the dictum in many occult circles, as is there in the worlds, planes beyond, so is there in this physical plane. Every thing has a sort of mirror imaging of the universal ideas and realities. Hence jyotish too has both an unseen as well as seen(physical)mappings (correspondences). The numbers perfectly add up because the system of jyotish is so holistic. Its an indication of the holistic nature of the art of jyotish which is deep down a system of technically ascertaining various energy fields and their effects. Which is why a sufficiently developed/spiritually evolved individual can make uncannily accurate predictions without even knowing the name of the other person with plain “intution”. I have met such people. Thats because he has the ability to tune into the energies and “see” the future. But energies have a very physical source and astral mappings. I have seen and observed such people very closely for sufficient lengths of time and that drives me to this conclusion.
Nalini
Its a part of Jaimini Course 2007, so I will keep it to myself for now.
Rajesh
Now You dived into very deep physics. The point is that according to Jataka Parijata Dasas distribute karma. Behind Dasas stand Grahas (grasping mind - Grahas, grasping body - Upagrahas), and beyond them stand Deva. So its starts becoming more personal than mechanical. Im happy that Your approach into Jyotish is very philosophical.
Thanks and yes I see what you mean and agree to it from the traditional jyotish point of view.
Tell me something Rafal, if i am seeing the chart or someone who is not hindu then would i still advice such a person to pray to the istha devata? or should i advice such a person to pray to his/her deity in whatever religion he belongs to?
NEED URGENT AND EFFECTIVE REMEDIE..I HAVE INVESTED HEAVILY IN STOCK MARKET IN INDIA AND CURRENTLY FEARING LOTS/TONS OF LOSES ..I AM WEARING YELLOW AGATE STONE …SO DO TELL ANY QUECK AND EASIEST REMEDIE FOR GETTING PROFIT FROM SHARES INVESTMENT…I HAVE ALSO WEARING CAT EYE STONE IN MIDDLE FINGER WHICH I TODAY DISLODGED . DOB 19 MAY 1970 AT 7.12 AM (OR 7.10AM) CHANDIGARH .PUNJAB.INDIA
Rajesh
Reg form. Normally Palana devata should be worshipped in the form of Mahavidya, some say Vishnu (sustainer).
Reg. Deity. Yes, you can use Atmakaraka planet. Difference is with Ishta Devata: when this graha is ALSO Atmakaraka then when You are not God, You should use yuti or rasi drsti planet to indicate Ishtadeva. Best if this planet also i) yuti ketu or ii) is placed in Navamsa trikona.
Regards
Rafal Gendarz
Dear Rafal ji,
I just want to clear my doubt about my Ishta Devta and mantra according to karakamsa rule should i worship kurma avatara of vishnu and worship bhimashankar for strengthening my AK or should i worship any other god.I have a small idol of Ganesha and Image of Goddess Lakshmi in my room which i worship…you have said that one would meet his Guru at the invocation of 9th house from karakamsa…should i have to wait too long…would that be possible only after 2013..
[Born on 10th sep 1983,8:50am,trivandrum,kerala,India]
I consider this a great pleasure that i was able to discover this website where you are providing immense knowledge about this divine science imparting knowledge to all who seeks knowledge about vedic astrology…
please keep up this divine venture of clearing doubts of the astro students….
Thank you very much.
May you be blessed with health and wealth…
Meeting Guru can be also in Guru Dasa at it sits in 9 from Karakaamsa and aspecting Karakaamsa. With Mo+Sa (kalika yoga) in Lagna you can sacrifice for community, you will be quite emotional and will have good position due to 10L in Lagna. Mars debilitated in 10H bhava will give wealth especially when aspected by Ju. For Kalamrta Yoga worship Tara or wear Yellow Saphire, otherwise wait until 30′ties.
Dear Rafal ji,Namasthe
thank you very much for your insightful words….
So i have to select between “om namo narayanaya” or koorma avatara mantra….whats the role of amtya karaka?if there is no planet in 12th from karakaamsa and thee is planet in 6th from amatya karaka….then also should we stick on with the karakamsa rule itself for judging Ishta devata?
please forgive if i am stretching it too long…!
i m a final year law student.
once again thank you very much..
vinay.v
Dear Rafal ji,Namasthe
Thank you very much for your advice…I will start worshiping Lord Narayana.wishing you all the best in all your ventures.
Regards
vinay.v
Wrt the Ashta-murti of Shiva and the 8 petals (representing the Atmalinga), the other 7 being understood, how is “Kshetragya” (Pashupati) equated with Rahu?
This topic is quite new (Jaimini 07 course) and refers to state of bondage. We cure this problem by perscribing one of eight atma-lingas which are helping to resolve that situation. Petals on Anahata chakra refers to eight charakarakas which shows purpose and cause of life in the current body.
So for Budha we have Sarwalinga, for Shukra Bhava-, for Mangal Rudra, for Shani Ugra, for Guru Bhima, for Rahu Pasupati, for Surya Ishana and for Moon Mahadeva.
Indeed, I was advised to recite Om Namah Shivaya Rudralingaya Ram Ram Sah for my Mangal problem in chart.
Came across your wonderful website and learnt a LOT about jyotish just by reading your replies to the various question. My heartiest congratulation to you for trying to speard the real knowledge of jyotish among people who are eager to learn.
Although this is not the right thread for it, I would request you to kindly explain the use of the various amsa deities of the d20 chart in findling out spiritual potential of the chart. It will be really wonderful if you could do so. Thanks in advance
Thanks Rafal indeed it is interesting to observe the correspondence between Jyotirlingas and rasis; the Atmalingas and Grahas/charakarakas. As in Shiva Purana, Shiva is described in these 8 forms as the field and the knower of the field(hence corresponding to the tattvas, luminaries and kshetragya) - it’s easy to derive the correspondence b/w the luminaries and tattva forms, but i cud’nt grasp why Ra (of the 8 charakarakas) would be assigned to represent Kshetragya (Knower of the field).
Interestingly enough, the Pancha-mahabhoota temples of Shiva and 3 others, corresponding to the remaining 3 forms exist, much like the 12 Jyotirlinga temples.
Elsewhere, in other puranas (?Markandeya, Brahmanda), Rudra is signified as Su, who with His Shakti Suvarchala produced Shani, while Mahadeva (~Mo) with Rohini produced Buddha (Mer), Bhava (~ water) with Usa/Dhatri produced Shukra (Ve) etc. However, in this classification, the progeny includes only 4 grahas (Sa, Ve, Ma, Me) and rest are Manojava, Skanda, Svarga, Santana - which ofcourse i dont understand if they have any correspondence within the 8-charakaraka scheme - any thoughts?
Was reading the earlier posts. One interesting thought struck me. You have referred to the Kshetragya or the knower of the field. Now in the agamas specially Bhairavi tantra and Rudya Yamala Tantra, Shiva in his form as Bhairava is refered to as kshetrgya and therefore he becomes Kshetrapala. Now as you have mentioned Rahu is assigned to refer to Kshetragya, or Pashupati. Now in the tantrik traditions, the lowest class of sadhaka is the pashu or one still bound by his animal instincts and Bhairava in the form of Pashupati (Lord of the animals) is to be worshipped in such cases. Ra is the planet that causes rebirth and hence the maximum attachments for material things, something similar to the pashu nature which the tantras speak of. Maybe that could be one logic for this. Just my thoughts.
-Rajarshi
Thank You for Your words. Im glad that You are learning from this site. I used to do the same.
D20-Amsa Devatas are the various names of Spiritual Mother. This division refers to Adi Shankara statement : Gatistvam Gatistvam tvam eka bhavani. In this categorization Devi ensures that our Gati towardsa Ishta Deva is clear.
So I was taught, that to ensure spiritual success we can add Ishta-Devata-Devi name to our Ishta Deva mantra. This will make our path free of any obstacles. We worship Devi of Istha Devata in D20 to remove all problems on our path towards mukti.
Usage of Lagna-Devata is to establish spirituality.
Soul Sadhak
If we talk about that Shiva Purana sloka about eight types of bandhana, then Sun shows ahamkara, Chandra shows Mana, Rahu shows prakrti, while the rest of planet refers to 5 Tattvas.
Infact Saravali states that Rahu stands for Ahamkara. Ive never heard about the second categorization (which You make in the last paragraph) so I cant comment. Im very happy and inspired that You are discussing all these spiritual and deep issues.
I don’t disagree with what is mentioned in Shiva Purana, or that forms of Shiva that represent the tattvas and the luminaries and the Knower of It All. If one goes to Ganesha Atharvasheersha, then Ganesha is manifest as all tattvas - and if one goes to Devi Mahatmaya - ten Shakti is the one that manifests as Creation - the idea in the scriptures is to understand the Oneness of the Creation - nothing more (i believe you know that, but i wrote just to put things into perspective).
Coming back to the classifications we are talking about, the one you have mentioned above is from the Shatarudra Samhita (of Shiva Purana) that i quote below:
“SharvoBhavastathaa Rudra Ugrobheemaha Pashopatihi
Eeshaanashcha Mahadevo Moortyschaashtvishrutaaha II3II
BhoomyAmbho_AgniMarudhVyomaKsheytragyarkNishaakaraha I
Adhishtascha Sharvaadyayaashtaroopayi Shivasya hi II 4 II”
While the other one that i mentioned, incidentally is also mentioned in Shiva Purana itself (though it doesnt mention the above said Shakti_s) in the Vayaviya Samhita which i quote below:
Between the 2:
Bhava, Sharva, Bheema and Mahadeva remain same,
but the other 4 vary.
So which one to follow still can be a question.
Personally, i think, the basic idea is for us to know that it is the Supreme that manifests as The Universe (made of tattvas and the rest of the atributes) and our Limited Self_s (atma, mana, body etc) are also very much a part of this Whole (One with The Creation)
- we can give the Supreme whatever name - but IT is just IS…basically words cannot ever describe IT - yet, it is good to have some Name - some Indicator for our limited or illusioned Mind to latch on to and make it
Connect to The Supreme.
Based on Parampara teaching for Atmalinga, we use the former scheme. While the second should have some other usage. I appreciate Your efforts and of course I agree to the idea in Your first paragraph.
I came across a lecture of Snajy Rath regarding Istha devata. Now incase there are no planets in the jeevanmuktamsa he mentions the following paragraph..
“If there are none in the 12th house then the planetary aspects in the 2nd house should be determined. In this case the aspects of the signs alone are to be used as the deities do not exist in a “human body”…the planetary aspect determins the direction of the deity and teh deity itself”..
So in case there are no planets in the 12th frmo karakamsa should we see the 2nd house from karakamsa?
Ive never heard about it, and I suppose its a mistake. In VRA You will find Sanjayji advising to see aspects on 12H from Karakamsa, but to be exact that will indicate Devas who are helping You in spiritual path, who are guiding You to Ishta Deva. Especially when these planets are in kona to Navamsa Lagna, or yuti Ketu.
BUT the real examination is always related to 12H from Karaakamsa - yuti or lordship.
OMM GURUVYE NAMAH
RESPECTED RAFALJI,
I M A SILENT DISCIPLE OF S.RATH,VISTIJI AND RAFALJI LIKE “EKLAVYA”,SOMETIMES I M CONFUSED ABOUT MY BIRTH TIME AND CHART AND CAN’T GET MY ISTADEVATA,PALAN DEVATA & GURU DEVATA.PLEASE CORRECT IT WITH YOUR DIVINE KNOWLEDGE AND BLESSINGS.4th.May 1968,05:30am ,Cuttack,India IS MY BIRTH DATA AS MENTIONED BY MY FATHER IN MY HOROSCOPE MADE BY N
ORTH INDIAN ASTROLOGER ,SHOWS KARKA RASSI ,MEANS MOON IN CANCER.BUT A SENIOR ASTROLOGER FROM ORISSA (EASTERN)SHOWS THAT MOON IS IN GEMINI (MITHUNA)RAASI.I AM A BIT CONFUSED HERE COZ MOON IN MITHUNA OR GEMINI MEANS IT ACHIEVED HIGHEST DEGREES -AK IN MY CAHRT AS WELL AS MOON IN CANCER MEANS THAT IT ACHIEVED LOWEST DEGREEES-DK (MAY BE ITS A RASSI-SANDHI BIRTH)-I GUESS .SO PLEASE HELP ME TO GET MY-PROPER AK,ID,PD AND GD.
THANK YOU ,
WITH DEEP RESPECT ,
DEEPAK MODI
In Your chart, its a peculiar situation, as AK is in Rasi Sandhi occupying 29 degree. Moon changes it sign in span of 8 minutes. So as You can suspect this requires rectification.
Hits:
1.If You have Moon in third, then You are able cook.
2.If Moon is in third, then You are quite emotional and sensitive person.
3. If Moon is in Mithuna Rasi, then Ra/Sa would be in tenth. This doesnt bode well for Your career prosperity.
While when Moon is in Karka Rasi then You should have support for Your career in period of: 1987-1989.
So if these three points are appealing to You then:
OMM GURUVYE NAMAH
RESPECTED RAFALJI,
I M A SENSITIVE AND EMOTIONAL PERSON NO DOUBT,BUT I HATE COOKING,INFACT I NEVER GO NEAR TO COOKING FIRE.ITS ALSO TRUE THAT I HAVE STARTED MY CAREER IN DEC.1989 AS A CIVIL CONTRACTOR AND NOT SO MUCH PROSPER IN MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE.I M VERY MUCH THANKFUL TO YOU FOR YOUR ADVICES AND REQUEST YOU TO GUIDE ME TO HAVE A SPIRITUAL PATH TOWARDS MY ISTA DEVATA,PALAN DEVATA AND GURU DEVATA.
WITH DEEP RESPECT,
DEEPAK MODI
OMM GURUVYE NAMAH
RESPECTED RAFALJI,
I HAVE ONE ELDER BROTHER-SANJAY ,TWO YOUNGER SISTERS -KAVITA & SUNITA THEN ONE YOUNGER BRO.-KAMAL RESPECTIVELY
BUT HAVE NO BIRTH DATA .I HAVE LEFT MY PARENTS FAMILY AND LIVE ALONE SINCE 1989 AND MARRIED IN NOV 29TH 1999. GOT A FEMALE CHILD ON 12TH NOV.2000 / 4.00PM (SAMRIDDHI) & A MALE CHILD ON 28TH NOV /11.52AM 2002(SUMIRAN).REGARDING MY JOB, I USE TO CONSTRUCT RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS FOR LAST 18 YEARS ,BUT NOT SO MUCH FINANCIALLY SUCESSFULL, AND PART TIMER HONORARY ASTROLOGER FOR LOCAL PEOPLE.
PLEASE SHOW ME A CORRECT PATH TO ACHIEVE SUCESS AND PEACE
IN MY LIFE O’ MY LORD MY GURUDEV I BEG UPON YOUR LOTUS-FEET FOREVER
THANK YOU ,
WITH DEEP RESPECT ,
DEEPAK MODI
Im pretty convinced that Your Chandra should be in Karka Rasi. This is based on Your career timings. According to that you have Shani AK, and Vishnu as Istha Devata.
The most advisable remedy according to Your chart is definitely worship of Brghu with Mantra: Om Bhargavaaya Namah.
You have curse of Budha in second bhava, which afflicts financial and proffesional side of Your life. Shukra as dispositor is placed in Lagna, so worshipping of Brghu I would recommend as most suitable remedy for You.
1]what is the role of ak in d20 and how does it guides the native to spirtuality.
2]what is the role of ishta devta in d20?
3]do we need to give importance to grahamallika yoga in d20 for spirtuality especially where starting and ending planet in the gmy is ak?
please throw some light on grahamalika yoga if possible.
Thanking you.
1. Lagnesh, Sun and AK positions should be carefully examined in Vimsaamsa to describe ones approach towards spirituality. Of course AK position will be the most essential, inner and crucial. This usually becomes visible when the spirituality is practiced seriously. That means serious desire to satisfy God or become truly aware of owns absolute position in this material world. Shukra and Budha motivation in uplifting the conciousness are real obstacles in moving from karma-kanda into jnana or bhakti kanda.
2. Examine the sambandha between ID and BK with relation to AK. That will show how God and Guru are easily available in Your upasaana. The same can be done in D1 and D9, but then You must know how it differs. This is easy when You are aware what is the essence and real meaning of particular divisional chart.
3. Yes, grahamalika should be taken into account in all Vargas. Just mix the principles to jump from novice to mediocre Jyotisha.
I have some questions regarding the previous posts and also I would like to than Arnab for asking the questions on vimsamsa.
In your reply yo Deepak you have mentioned worship of Brigu rishi for sukra. Could you kindly enlighten me on which rishis are connected to the otehr planets. It would be really helpful.
Also I did not undrstand that statememt that shukra and buddha motivation causing problem. If possible kindly elaborate with an example. Thanks in advance.
1. For Guru rupas, please download pdf ‘Devatas’ from this site and there is a table for that.
2. Rajasic traits gives bheda (seperation) where You rather try to seek personal gains, than unmotivated spiritual evolution. So when these rajasic grahas are in apoklima to Arudha Lagna then its more easy to follow stricte spirituality. Check Srila Prabhupada’s and other Saints charts. I think You are aware of these rules.
3. Eight bhava in D20 is karyabhava - controlling house of Varga. It shows how and when we transform. If Budha and Shukra are debilitated then its easy to give up passions, and if they are influencing eight bhava this helps You in Your spiritual pursuits. Again refer to Srila Prabhupada Vimshaamsa.
Thanks for clarifying again! So do we look at rajasik grahas at apalokima to AL even in d20 chart? Or is it only in rasi chart?
I was reading a jyotish blog from where it was mentioned that that the tithi lord ruling the tithi formed between the AK and AMK in rasi chart aspects the 8th bhava in d20 for mysticism.. Can you explain to me a bit more.. what the rule actually says..
I am quoting from the writings…”While Sun and Moon show the universal soul and the mind, I was taught that atma karaka (AK) and amatya karaka (AmK) show the individual soul and the individual consciousness. Just as you find a tithi from the longitudes of Sun and Moon, you can find a “karaka tithi” from the longitudes of AK and AmK. Just as the normal tithi physically shows the phase of Moon and how much of Sun’s light Moon is reflecting, this karaka tithi shows the phase of individual consciousness and how much of the light held by the soul is reflected by the consciousness. As per tradition, this karaka tithi is supposed to be important for the native’s spirituality. It throws light into the purpose of creation of the person. Its lord controls the spiritual well-being of the person. In the charts of most of the mystics, you will find an association between the lord of the karaka tithi and the 8th house in D-20 or atleast navamsa”….
Tithi can be also counted for houses, like we have Santana for children. This is also very interesting as we play here on the ground of Charakarakas. I would like to see how this rule work with charts..this again demands rectified Vimshamsas. I was also taught to see Jyotirlinga Tithi to know the cause of birth.
Yes I have been trying to apply this principle and seeing how they work in charts but I had a confusion. After finding the tithi do we take the tithi lord as per kalchakra?
BY which I mean after frinding the degrees gained by the amk from the ak, we divide it by 12 and count from sukla pratipad and find the tithi. Then we take the lord of the tithi from the kalchakra. I am not sure if that is the method. If so then I dont think this rule is much valid as I have seen quite a few charts of both spiritual as well as non spiritual people and the rule does not work.
Maybe the tithi calculation is different. Kindly enlighten me more of this topic.
Also very interesting to know that the jyotirlinga tithi is teh cause of birth. Do you mean the tithi at birth which is connected to specific jyotirlinga?.. If you could just provide an example it would be wonderful Rafal.
Continuing wrt Atmalinga, if i infer correctly, the Atmalinga of the planet conjoining the AK in navamsa should be preferred - is this so especially if the conjoining planet is a malefic (as in your case - Ma conj Ju) or does it hold for a benefic conjoining as well?
Also, what do we do if:
1. Ketu conjoins AK?
2. More than one planet conjoins AK?
I am learning astrology and the articles in this site are really helpful for begineers like me.
I have a question reading my Son’s Ishta Devata.
My Sons birth details are :
Date : 30-07-2007.
Place: Kadapa (78E49, 14N28)
Time : 2:51AM IST
The AK is Mercury and is in Tarus Navamsa. Saturn and Moon are in Aries Navamsa. Moon becomes the ID as Saturn is debilitated and having lesser degree than Moon. Now does he need to pray Sri Krishna or Gouri devi? Since Moon is in Malefic Rasi, does he need to worship Ugra roopa devata like Durga devi?
Can I coin my son’s name according to the ID? Will it be helpful to him?
I have a question on my Ishta Devata.
Here are my birth details
Date : 13-04-1978
Place : Proddatur (78E32, 14N38)
Time : 4:35AM IST
In my chart, Sun is Ak vargottama in Pisces. Since there are no planets in Aquarius Navamsa, Saturn becomes the ID. And Saturn is in Aries along with Rahu in Navamsa, where Rahu is having more degrees than Saturn and Saturn is debilitated. Now who will be my ID. Do I need to worship Vishnu or Durga devi.
Please let me know whom to worship and the mantra.
In my Rahu dasa I was worshiping Vishnu, and in Jupiter period (which is currently running), I am more inclined to Shiva.
Tithi Jyotirlinga is interesting principle and is based on degrees of Tithi. Divide the tithi degrees by twelve and find the sign starting from Aries. My Tithi Jyotirlinga is Gemini so my cause for birth is related to spreading the knowledge of Guru (Vasuki yoga with Rahu while dispositor is in forth as Bhadra Mahapurusa).
Soul Sadhak
Atmalinga is perscribed for bandhana yogas. This is especially related to twelve house from Atmakaraka.
Vijay
These questions are not primitive. Infact if you follow the instruction to recite Ishta deva mantra then your life is saved. If you recite Dharma deva mantra then your goal in life is saved. Sincerity is the condition.
12H from Karakaamsa shows the Ishta, 9H from Karakaamsa shows the Dharma Deva.
Dear Rafal
Thanks for suggestin me my ishta devta Sr Ganesha and Dharma Devta Hrsikesh.
I request you to please suggest the mantras to be chanted for Ishta devta and Dharma Devta.Also how many minimum no of malas(108) to be chanted daily and weather both mantras can be chanted simultaneously.
Check the position of Ketu in D1 and choose the aksharas number accordingly. Om Ganeshaya Namah is the standart mantra. The malas are based on the number of words for the siddhi of mantra.
Respected Sir,
I have read article on “Ishta Devata”. I am some doubts in my mind. In VRA, it is written that “For Ishta Devata calculation, the strongest planetary influence on the twelfth house should be checked. If more than one planet is placed therein, then their placement in Exaltation/own house etc should be considered failing which, their longitude (in the rashi chart ignoring signs) is to be considered and the one with the highest longitude is to be declared the strongest, which shall determine the ishta devata”.
But Sirji, in step 2: Planets aspecting the sign: If there are none in the twelfth house, then the planetary aspects on the second house should be determined”. How ? Sirji, I am very much confused. Please please help me for Ishta devata calculation. DOB : 15/16 Apr. 1964, TOB : 00:45 Hrs. (East of GMT), POB : 74 E 46′00″, 19 N 58′00″
Sirji, please lighten my path to deity. I will be greatful to you.
Thanks with regards,
Mrs. Sunita.
Im glad that you read VRA. Later on Sanjayji advised that after checking planet in that sign, we should consider the lord. Planets aspecting this point will show the group of the Deities which are blessing the native with the Parama Gati which is Moksha. Especially those touched by Ketu and in kona to Navamsa Lagna.
For this details:
Date: April 16, 1964
Time: 0:45:06
Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)
Place: 74 E 46′ 00″, 19 N 58′ 00″
The ishta deva is: Kali Ma!
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
Came across a very interesting chart. This guy named Jeff Warren is the leader of a polygamits cult named the Fundamentalist Cult of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, a breakaway from the original Mormom church. And they believe and practise polygamy at very large scales. Recently he was arrested and convicted.
3rd December 1955, San Francisco California. Around 8:30 am.
The AK being with nodes and shani in a parivraj yoga and in 12th house maybe the reason of his imprisonment?
It would be great if you could analyse this chart a bit.
Respected sir,
Thank you very much. Please explain me about determination of “ishta devata”. You have suggested that “Kali maa” is ishta devata for me. What should be done?
Yours sincerely,
Mrs. Sunita
I’m sorry - i think my question was not clear.
The question is regarding where in the chart to look for bandhana of atma wrt atmakaraka.
If i understand correctly, 12th from AK in nav is jeevanmuktamsa and Ishta devata would be worshipped to make one or atleast lead one to being jeevanmukta.
12th from AK in rasi wud be seen for any devabadhaka if present.
What you stated above wrt ur chart (atmalinga of Ma was advised to you) i dont see any coonection of Ma with 12th from AK in navamsa/rasi; rather Ma conjoins AK in Navamsa.
Hence the question.
Respected Sir,
You have stated, “Kali maa” is my Ishta Devata. But how it is done? Please explain me. Thanks for your valuable time.
Best regards,
Mrs. Sunita.
Sorry for interrupting your discussion with Rafal. But the 12th AK in rasi in not devatabadhak. Debatabahdak is when the badhakesh is afflicted and the 12th from badhakesh is also having malefics and afflcited. In such a case the planets in the 12th will indicate what was the cause for the badhak as in mars indicates mutilation of idol and shani can indicate neglect/pollution etc etc.
When the nodes or shani or mars conjoins the AK it gives a feeling of bondage. Even when these conjoin the lagnesh a feeling of bondage also comes in. This is mentioned in the book Jyotish Fundamentals while explaining one example. Now if the same combination happens in house which is also malefic that can lead to physical imprisonment as well. If you look at the chart in the previous example I had given, a typical case can be seen. The person has a severe bandhana yoga in his 12th house involving the AK.
Respected Rafalji,
I request you to please suggest the answer as early as possible. It’s important for me to know how you have determined “Ishta Devata”. And please advise me which next step I have to follow ?
Thanking you with regards,
Mrs. Sunita (not Revati)
Rajarishi
Four planets in twelfth makes the person oversexual. Mangal aspected by Ketu sits in 12H from Karaka Lagna as the dispositor of this yoga and A7. Therefore the imprisonment due to sexual misuse. There is also bandhanayoga for L (6,8), AL (5,9) and AK (2,12).
Your second post is right.
Soul Sadhak
Yes for bondage like jail etc. 12 from Karaka Lagna. For release of bondage - 12 from Karakaamsa. 12 from Badhaksthan - Deva Badhak.
Sunita
AK is Mangal. 12L from AK is Vrscika with two lords : a) Ketu and b) Mangal. Mangal is stronger. Mangal cant be the Ishta and Atma therefore Shani takes the role of Ishta. Shani will take role of the mother if 6L from AmK is involved - it is. Therefore the Shani Vesha of Mother is Kali.
Sukra is placed in ninth from AK. But Sukra is Pitrukaraka. Sir, please again explain, “Shani takes the role of Ishta. Shani will take role of the mother if 6L from AmK is involved”. Why 6th lord from AmK?
Sir, 6th lord from AmK will be “Palan Devata”. Isn’t it?
Sir, please correct me if I am mistaken. I am beginner in this field. So please guide me in a right way, so that I can stand right in yours students’ list.
Sir, I want to be. Please answer me as early as possible.
Thanking you with regards,
Yours sincerely,
Mrs. Sunita.
Respected Sir,
You have stated, “Kali maa” is my Ishta Devata. But how? I posted a comment on 30th Apr. Please give reply sir. I am very much confused. Thanks for your valuable time.
And please guide me how to propriate the Ista Devata. Which mantra? And how we can decide about letters within mantra? That I can’t get it.
About akshara within mantra. How should we decide? Where I will get details about it?
Please enlighten Rafal ji,
Thanks with Best regards,
Mrs. Sunita.
Soul Sadhak
Atma is always clean and free. The illusion of bondage is seen as the cause and manifestation. The first we see in Navamsa while the later we see in Rasi as attachment. Therefore Ishta Devata removes the cause of bandhana (12 from Karakaamsa). AK in D1 indicate the seriousness of problem due to inner cause. In the same manner kona to Moon versus kona to Atmakaraka defines the seriousness of depressions.
Mrs Sunita
Ive just answered how I chose Kali for Ishta. When Palana is connected to Jivanmuktaamsa then Ishta takes the role of Mother. We choose aksharas based on Rasi for manifestation in our lives, but you can just start Dakshina Kali mantra.
This is not related to istha devata but I had a question regarding arudha. I was reading a blog where it was mentioned that when the lagna lord is in 4th house it indicates protection of ganesha and when in 10th house indicates blessings of devis vahana(lion).. Is this true? And if its true what does it really mean in terms of manifestation in real life?
I think this comes from Zoran’s blog. Its hard for me to comment to what part of life this is related, as forth is Devi whilst Tenth is usually associated with Saraswati, Indra. Seventh is for Ganesha/Shiva.
Respected Rafal ji,
Thanks a lot. I am really obliged from bottom of my heart. You have given me answers always. Really I feel gratitude!
R/s Rafal ji, you told to recite Dakshina Kali mantra. Where I can get it ? And how many times should I recite it? Please give way.
Thanks once again with best regards,
Mrs. Sunita.
My DOB is 02 dec/1972.Time-11-15 AM IST
place- tumkur,India.
My AK is Sani and my Karakamsa(Lagnamsa and karakamsa in D-9 are the same) is Simha Rasi. The 12th from Simha Rasi, Cancer is empty. Moon is in Dhanus with Sun. Mercury is with Sani in the Karakamsa. Rahu is 4rth from Lagnamsa in D-9 and has aspect on the 12th. Can you please advise advise on my ishta devata and any mantras i should recite?
Dear Rafel - Namaskara.
PLEASE suggest ishtadevata,palandevata,dharmdevata,& gurudevata for following chart.
dob- 25-11-66
tob- 6:44:00am
place- nagpur - India
Actually i am confused by all cursed planets excluding JUP. Just can’t find curse & remedy.
Regards.
Satish.
Respected Rafal ji,
Namskar. I am really obliged from bottom of my heart. You have given your valuable time.
Please give attention to my this post. I have been posted a request on 7th May. I am eagerly waiting for your answer.
Rafal ji, you told me to recite Dakshina Kali mantra. Please make available it to me and please advice me - how many times should I recite it? Please give way.
Thanks once again with best regards,
Mrs. Sunita.
Can you please help me with this request. I really appreciate your knowledge in this regard.
My DOB is 02 dec/1972.Time-11-15 AM IST
place- tumkur,India.
My AK is Sani and my Karakamsa(Lagnamsa and karakamsa in D-9 are the same) is Simha Rasi. The 12th from Simha Rasi, Cancer is empty. Moon is in Dhanus with Sun. Mercury is with Sani in the Karakamsa. Rahu is 4rth from Lagnamsa in D-9 and has aspect on the 12th. Can you please advise advise on my ishta devata and any mantras i should recite?
Respected Rafal ji,
Namskar. I am really obliged from bottom of my heart. You have given your valuable time. Can you please help me with this request?
Please give attention to my this post. I have been posted a request on 7th May & on 18 th May. I am eagerly waiting for your valuable answer.
Rafal ji, you told me to recite Dakshina Kali mantra. Please make available it to me and please advice me - how many times should I recite it? Please give way.
Thanks once again with best regards,
Yours sincerely,
Mrs. Sunita.
Dear Rafalji,
namaskar.
my atmakaraka is moon and karakamsa is dhanus rashi. 12th from dhanus rashi is scorpio and mercury is placed there.so the ishta devata should be lord buddha. there is a rashi parivartan yoga between mercury and ketu in navamsa. so is it change the ishta devata. personally i have always worshiped shiv. moreover in navamsha chart 9th house from moon is simha rashi whose lord sun is in conjuction with venus so the same confusion who is the dharma devata? and the bhatrukaraka is jupiter which is retrograde in rashi chart and place in second house. so sadashiv should be worshiped. as the jupiter is retrograde is it make any difference while choosing the deity?
Dear Rafalji,
regarding the above query my birth date:2nd oct,1986. birth time:15:48, birth place: Dhrangadhra. and the retrograde jupiter as bhatru karaka in second house what kind of guru it indicates?
thanks,
manasi
I am Fresh Law graduate and practicing in the lower and high court of Jharkhad.
I am preparing rot the JUDICIAL JOBS also.Kindly advise that could I be albe to achieve my aim/ the Jucicial post/Job.
(If any remedy are also there in shaping my career,please advise that also)
Kindly advise me on the above request.My additional details are as follows:-
Date of Birth: 18.5.1984
Time of Birth :02.50AM
Place of Birth: Ranchi
State: JHARKHAND,INDIA
Rafal ji,
DOB :23-12-1982
Time :10.55 am
Place : Calcutta(West Bengal)
My ishta devata I thnk is Sri Parashurama.Is it correct?
I have an attraction to worship Maa Tara what is its astrological significance?
My ista graha lord Venus is combust in natal chart amidst a parivrajaya yoga in 11th house.What does this mean?
Kindly enlighten me regarding a query of mine. I wish to know who my Ista should be and with what mantra should I wordhip Him/Her? My date of birth is 17 July 1985 at 8:30pm at Dibrugarh, Assam, India.
Namaskar Sri Rafal,
1 As per different jyotish traditions and scriptures its Ketu who grants the moksha karaka.Incase ketu has sambhanda of dristi or conjunction with either of the ishta devta ,dharma devta or gurudevta- will worshiping that deity make a person more determined towards the fulfillment of his spirtual purpose.
2-when the lord of karkamsa lagna becomes the ishtadevta - can we still worship the deity??
expecting your replies on these querries.May Lord Narasimha bless you.
Thx for this article which is of utmost help. I am finding myself in a bit of confusion regarding the chart which I’m reading: I cannot find the Karakamsa from the Atmakarak since there is no rashi or grah in the 12th house from Atmakarak. (10th house being 12th from Karakamsa - Lord is Shani) So am I right in presuming that Ishta Devta is simply Lord Vishnu although there are drishtis from Mangal, Guru, Shani and Rahu from the nearby houses?
I tried hard to figure out my Ishta devta from my chart, can u plz help me.. I have attraction for Lord Krishna, but I rem when I was worshipping Lord ramchandra, I was having the best time of my life.
December 14th, 2007 at 6:59 am
|| Om Namo Naarayanaaya ||
Dear Rafal,
I have read the pdf. In my case Sy is 12th from Karakamsha(Kumbha). However, I was advised to pray Narayana with Ashtakshari for Saturn as my ID.
The reason being, look for Ishta devata, dharma devata and palana devata planet in Navamsha chart, and see is there any planet who connects all three important points. Than we should check if that planet is in 1st, 5th, 7th or 9th house in Navamsha as planets placed there can be worshiped; and the third point is to find link with Ketu because if there is no link with Ketu we will not believe that there is God there in that deity.
In my case, though Sy is in 12th from Karakamsha, Sa lording 12th from Karakamsha, is placed in 5th , having rashi drishti on Dharma devata and phalana devata signs (and Ketu). Hence it is easy for me to worship Narayana as my Ishta devata.
My personal experience though being, I love worshipping Rama.
Whats ur take on this ?
28-02-1980
12:35:43
Hanamkonda, India
Regards,
Pavan K
December 14th, 2007 at 1:38 pm
hare rama krsna
Dear Pavan, Namaskar
Surya is in Jeevanmuktamsa Rasi which shows Ramachandra or Shiva. Your arguments about 1) trikona in Navamsa and 2) planets touched by Ketu are very right - therefore sadhana for Sri Narayana will be the best for You.
If You feel the attraction for Sri Ramachandra then You should continue it.
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
December 16th, 2007 at 3:55 pm
||Hare Ramakrishna||
dear rafal,
a very neat and a meaningful contribution to jyotish and students of astrology on ishta devta from you.Congratulations and best wishes on that.We do expect more of it from you.
however, there is one question i would like to raise which is what do we infer when lagna lord of rasi itself becomes the ishta devta
2]Its said that when 12th from ak - planet present there is retrograde -how does one appease the ishta as retrograde planets takes quite an effort from the native for appeasement.
December 16th, 2007 at 11:25 pm
Hare Raama Krishna,
Dear aRNAB
A retrograde graha in 12th from karakamsa can indeed mean that God requires three times as much effort from you in worship. If there are any other points on this issue I hope Guru Ji will explain that. Thank you for nice words on my article.
With regards
Pawel Leszczak
December 17th, 2007 at 1:28 am
hare rama krsna
Dear aRNAB, Namaskar
1. If Lagnesh and Lagna is connected to ID then lesson will be directly related to our personality, fame and health. That means Ishta sitting on our head. Ishta Devata in D1 shows area of weakness of AK (Sanjay Rath/Serbija 2006). This however differs from 6 from Karaka Lagna which also shows weakness (this one is taking one away from God). You can see also relation between ID and AK in D20, to see how easily You get the blessings of Your Deity due to Sadhana performed.
2. It also shows unusual/very unique perspective of God. Sanjay Rath in Jaimini US says that this bhava shows Loka after death (page 74).
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
December 17th, 2007 at 7:16 am
Dear Rafalji,
Plz advise me on this,
CHART D/1:LAGNA LIBRA,3 RD-MARS, 5-RAHU+MOON,7-SAT(R)(MAY BE IT’S GETTING THE NEECHBHANGA),11-VENUS+KETU,12-MER(R)+SUN+JUP.
CHART D/9-LAGNA-ARIES,2ND-VENUS,3 RD-RAHU+JUP(ATMA KARAKA)+MER-R(AMATYAKARAKA)+MARS,5 TH-SATURN(R),7 TH-MOON,9 TH-KETU N 11 TH -SUN.
So this person karakamsa is in Gemini, 12 th from it is Taurus n Venus is in it.So this person ’s ID is Maa Laxmi.He should pray to Parasuram (om namoh bhagabate Hrishikesaya).Am I correct ?
But this person Prays to Shiva,Gauri n Durga.Also Learning Astrology.He’s currently running under Sat+Sat Dasa.
Plz give two lines on this chart.(comments n advise ,if any)
Thanks n Regards,
Rati
December 17th, 2007 at 2:29 pm
hare rama krsna
Dear Rati, Namaskar
Pls always provide full birthdata.
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
December 18th, 2007 at 7:26 am
Dear Rafalji,
Namaste.
Xtrmely sorry,
Time:08.59 HR
dATE:23-SEPT-1969.
PLACE :CUTTACK,INDIA
Thanks n Regards,
Rati
December 18th, 2007 at 11:30 am
hare rama krsna
Dear Rati, Namaskar
Chandra is aspecting Jivanmuktaamsa Rasi (12H from KK), therefore Durga and Gouri. That still is very good. But technically You are right about Lakshmi. Lord Shiva is Dharma Devata.
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
December 18th, 2007 at 11:52 am
Dear Rafalji,
Namaste,
Thanks for your guidance.
Anyway,it may not be relevant to mention here,but tell us something about D-10 chart,Role of Arudha in the Dasamsa Chakra.
Thanks n Regards,
Rati
December 18th, 2007 at 1:05 pm
hare rama krsna
Dear Rati, Namaskar
I think about some good article about D10 in future. Till then check Sohamsa.com/dbc/
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
December 22nd, 2007 at 4:23 pm
||Hare Ramakrishna||
dear rafal,
All i can say is just few words of praises for this valuable contribution towards the spreading of jyotish.I have some questions with the role of different deities that we see in our navamsa chart.
1]should the dharma devta be always in the vishnu form or one can even worship shiva as dharma devta as its Vishnu who represents dharma.
2]if one is aspiring to be disciple of a spirtual guru.Does the native has to worship the guru devta.I request you to shed some light on gurudevta as not much has been said about it.How does one propitiates the planet representing the gurudevta in navamsa so that one meets the spirtual guru.Which form should one take.
can you please shed some light on my gurudevta”
10th dec,1984..18:09hrs..kolkata,India.
i have mars as my guru devta but aspected by sun and saturn.Since it relates with leo ,should i take it as lord hanumana as he was the devotee of suryavanshi rama or someother form is aspected like lord bhairav or vishnu avtaar.
thanks and regards,
your eternal well-wisher,
aRNAB
December 22nd, 2007 at 6:03 pm
hare rama krsna
Dear aRNAB, Namaskar
1. As it lords ninth bhava its related to Guru who rules Akash Tattwa. Devata of Akash Tattva is Vishnu, so Dharma Devata should be related to Vishnu bhava, but choice of Deity is very individual and depends on Marga/Path.
2. Spiritual Guru is more related to Guru Devata (signified by BK in D9). I advice You to recite Om Gurave Namah 3 malas daily, this will be highly auspicious for this issue. Im happy that You are serious about Guru diksha.
3. Moon in Lagna gives usually tendency towards bhakti (jalatattva), lagnesh in seventh confirms the same, but yuti of Guru shows that You will have good guidance, otherwise natives with Lagnesh in seventh are very confused in life. A5 with Shukra also shows Devi (based on karakaparivartana). While Shani in fifth and Budha as Ishtadevata shows path to Narayana/Vishnu. Buddha lording 4 from AL and with Guru shows belonging to spiritual organization, and as second bhava shows Kutumbha (Phaldeepika) this can make You quite famous (Lagna) - maybe more when You will be abroad (Ra Nakshatra lord in 12H and Lagnesh in badhaksthana with badhakesh-benefic). Mars is alone as BK so it will show Hanuman/Rudra/Narasimha/Skanda…in Simha I think Rudra. Jupiter in fifth from Shani in D9 will make You interested in Scriptures, while Surya in ninth will show good knowledge of mantra (Jaimini/Parasara). Ishta Devata is lording 4H so it shows form of Devi (Tripura) or bhakti towards Vishnu/Narayana. I pray that this information will help You in Your spiritual journey.
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
December 22nd, 2007 at 6:47 pm
||Hare Ramakrishna||
dear Rafal,
i am just speechless and dont know how to thank you for your guidance.I can just pray to God that he blesses you with more fame,name and makes you more spirtually advanced.May lord Narayana’s grace be with you.
your eternal well-wisher,
aRNAB
January 2nd, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Very interesting posts regarding the AK and BK. Now I had some doubts which I could not understand. When the dasa of the BK is in progress should not the native attain a spiritual guru if he is so inclined? In the following chart 14th may 1980, 8:00 pm calcutta, mars is teh BK. And mars dasa is over but there has been no advent of guru although this individual is quite spiritually inclined.
Right now, a few days back he had an initiation into yoga. Could you kindly tell me how was this possible astrologically? I somehow believe that when his rahu/mars comes he will find his real guru. Also saturn is in lagna in d20, and saturn rules yoga, so could that be the reason he was initiated into yoga in this rahu/saturn period?
Also what kindly throw some light on the meaning of AK rahu being with amk shani and bk mars in D1.
-Thanks
Rajesh
January 2nd, 2008 at 4:42 pm
hare rama krsna
Dear Rajesh, Namaskar
1. If the BK dasa is going on then sibling/Guru can suffer. Otherwise BK must be quite strong to avoid it. Charakarakas shows spiritual lesson, but for spirituality see AK-dasa.
2. The Guru comes when ninth from Karakamsa is activated.
3. How You know Vimsamsa Lagna is accurate? In D3 third lord is in Tapaswi Yoga in eieght bhava which gives spiritual actions in His life. Tenth lord from Moon and Lagna is influenced by AmK+AK yoga which is very good for career. At the same time there is curse of Guru, so mixed results. He is in Shani which is influenced by dispositors of A5 and A9. Drigadasa is of Mesha which aspects these two planets also (Shani and Guru).
He will have extremes in His life, focused completely on spirituality or work. When the curse will be over and He will find good job then the spirituality can be weakened.
Is he the eldest or youngest in family?
Shukra in eigth makes sanyasis. Also Meena Navamsa Lagna is an option, then He can be quite wealthy in some point of time.
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
January 2nd, 2008 at 5:39 pm
hare ramakrishna
dear rafal,
i came across a chart of native who is a disciple of probably the greatest guru in modern india ie sri ramakrishna paramhansa .The natives name is swami sardananda and he is also the brother disciple of swami vivekananda.
i thereby present the birth details of the revered disciple of sri ramakrishna
swami sardananda
Natal Chart
Date: December 23, 1865
Time: 18:32:00
Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)
Place: 88 E 22′ 00″, 22 N 34′ 00″
Kolkata, India
Altitude: 0.00 meters
Lunar Yr-Mo: Krodhana - Pushya
Tithi: Sukla Shashthi (Ve) (60.57% left)
Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)
Nakshatra: Satabhishak (Ra) (40.93% left)
Yoga: Siddhi (Ma) (67.35% left)
Karana: Kaulava (Ma) (21.14% left)
Hora Lord: Jupiter (5 min sign: Pi)
Mahakala Hora: Jupiter (5 min sign: Sc)
Kaala Lord: Venus (Mahakala: Venus)
Sunrise: 6:13:41
Sunset: 16:58:11
Janma Ghatis: 30.7633
Ayanamsa: 21-59-13.86
Sidereal Time: 1:03:47
some notable events in this persons life
1]had his upnayana or thread ceremony of brahmin youth in the year of 1877
2]met his guru for the 1st time in october 1883.
3]went to england in april 1896 and joined vivekananda in april end to spread the message of vedanta.june 1896 went to america to do the same.
was appointed as the general secretary of ramakrishna math and headed this post for nearly 30years[1898-1927].
although propogated vedanta in the west but was known for absolute devotion to the consort of sri ramakrishna ie sri maa sharada devi and was the very 2nd after yogananda who could serve mother freely for 15years.
as far as i see here. the nakshatra lord of moon - rahu being with al in 3rd house did give him lot of name in foreign land especially america whereby he delivered public lectures and earned a noble reputation of being a holy man.
in navamsa there is a yog of ak and bk ie mars and saturn and saturn being the lord of 12th from ak is with mars the ak and his attachment was to his guru whom he worshipped as god incarnated.Also three planets including mokshkarak ketu ,venus and moon are 12th from ak.MARS being the ak is also the dharmadevta is in 9th house.
venus being the amk and 6th from it the cancer and moon being its lord is 12th from ak.
from the above combination can we infer the soul to be of very highly elivated spirtually.
both saturn and mars are powerfully placed in rasi chart .
however my doubt is moon being in mks in 8th house and lagna lord ???doesnt it shows a sort of weakness here.
when i tried to see the meeting of the native with his guru in october 1883.using the drigdasha the native is running pisces>> virgo>>libra in oct1883
OR
we should also see the narayana dasha of d20 chart,am not touching the d20 chart although the timings are accurate somehow the change of d20 lagna in 5secs may give a different outlook here.i leave it your expertise to higlight what would be the d20 lagna ,aries or taurus.
do give your view regarding the above chart.
i hope we all can learn from your analysis…
your eternal well-wisher
arnab
January 2nd, 2008 at 5:47 pm
hare rama krsna
Dear Arnab, Namaskar
What is the source of this chart?
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
January 2nd, 2008 at 6:17 pm
hare ramakrishna
the source of this chart is from ramakrishna mission and the book published by sri ramakrishna mission called as the 16monastic disciples of sri ramakrishna -GOD LIVED WITH THEM…
your eternal well-wisher,
arnab
January 2nd, 2008 at 8:58 pm
Hi Rafal thanks a lot for the analysis.. I asked the person concerned and found out that he does not have any brother or sister. You are right that vimsamsa lagna may not be accurate.
So he will stick to the yogic practises as long as the curse lasts?
Also do you think during rahu/mars he may get another initiation?
-Thanks again
Rajesh
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:35 pm
hare rama krsna
Dear Rajesh, Namaskar
1. Yes, that was also my guess (about sibling), see Shukra influence on 3/11 from AL.
2. When AL is on Ra/Ke then one can be very extreme between bhoga and moksha.
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
January 3rd, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Hi Rafal,
Thanks again for the analysis. Yes you are correct, AL on ra/ketu axis with ra as AK is very extreme. I got very confused with this chart specially trying to figure out about istha devata.. it would be great if you could direct me to some material for gaining mroe knowledge about the use of Atmakarakas. Ra atmakaraka seems to me like someone who will cheat or maybe dishonest.
Anyway thanks a lot for your help.
-Rajesh
January 4th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
hare rama krsna
Dear Rajesh, Namaskar
Infact native with Ra-AK is very naive and easily cheated. Its important lesson for these kind of people to avoid paying back with the same.
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
January 5th, 2008 at 7:10 am
Hi Rafal
Thanks again for the information. I had a question regarding the D3, which D3 should be seen? Parasara or Jagannath?.. also does the placement of 3rd lord of d3 show the purpose of the life for the individual?
In the chart in navamsa the 12th from karakamsa is meena, whos lord jupiter is sitting with mars and is aspected by venus. So the Istha devata will be a form of vishnu? Maybe even Jesus considering that meena is involved?
-Thanks again for clarifying the doubts
Regards
Rajesh
January 5th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
||hare ramakrishna||
hi rafal
with due respects to what rajesh said about the ishtadev being 12th from ak ie meena rasi…a jaltatva rasi now its aspected by jaltatva karaka venus by rasi dristi..
1- ista devta planet is jupiter as no planets are there in pisces and no planets are aspecting by graha drishti
2-jupiter is conjoined with mars and there is a mutual aspect of venus.Howevers doesnt mars dominates here being the 9th lord and higher in degreees and more stronger in rasi chart.
jupiter indicates shiva and mars in odd sign shows rudra, narasimha ,skanda.
The presence of guru-mangal yoga doesnt it indicates a fierce form of guru like rudra or bhairava… would love to see your views on this ….
your eternal well-wisher,
aRNAB
January 7th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
hare rama krsna
Dear Arnab, Rajesh, Namaskar
Moon is in Saturnine sign in D1,D3,D9 and aspected only by Shani (rasidrsti) (Parasara/Saravali). Atmakara is in Meenaamsa. Surya has Argala on AK and Vargotam Lagnesh. Ke/Gu aspects on AL (treat like Karakaamsa - Parasara) gives knowledge by inheritance - Parasara. Ke in 12H from Karakamsa aspected by ONLY benefics gives mukti (see Kumbha Rasi D9). Shukra is in third from AL in Satvic nakshatra. Surya is in tenth in Jagannath Drekkana with 3L.
1/Planets in vargottam have the strength of mrtyunjaya mantra so no weakness here, as dispositor is also in Sesa Yoga (read Saravali about weakness and streght of Moon).
2/Yes, foreign influence is there - also look at D3.
3/ Meeting Guru - Guru-Shukra period. Shukra is with Ketu (9L from Karakaamsa).
Rajesh
Jagannath Drekkana.
Yes 12L is with Mangal, so like Arnab wrote: Rudra, Narasimha, Shanda. Guru is also Dharmadevata so it can be form of Vishnu - Sri Narasimha. Worshipping Guru would be also very good - BK.
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
January 7th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Hi Arnab and Rafal,
Thanks both of you for your very valued inputs. I will surely inform this person to do worship or either Narasimha, Skandha or Rudra.
He told me he does puja of Lord Krishna and has been doing yogic practices for quite some time.
Thanks once again. This is a really wonderful website.
-Rajesh
January 7th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
hare rama krsna
Dear Arnab, Namaskar
Im happy that You like the site.
Does he have some problem with dentition or ears/eyes? (bphs 32.20)
His interest in Yoga can be justified by Chandra in AL (look at bphs 31.29).
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
January 8th, 2008 at 4:33 am
namaskar
my dob is 19 may 1970 at chandigarh .punjab(u.t) india am unable to find my istha devta .and mantar for that .if possible do some help..
thanks
ad.singh
January 8th, 2008 at 4:37 am
sorry to mention time
at 07.11 am and yes one thing more if my time is 07.09 am did it change and than what will be my istha devta and mantra for him.
ad.singh
January 8th, 2008 at 5:44 am
||hare ramakrishna||
dear rafal,
i guess it was rajeev who praised your site although i too feel great to participate and must say the site is doing a very wonderful work with regards to astrology.
in mr.adi’ case , ketu is rasi vargottam in d9 and mangal being the ak -12th from it is ketu.
ketu gives final emanicipation to the soul. jaimini sutra(1.2.69)
do correct me if i go wrong rafal,doesnt ketu indicates vedamurthi or ganesha however since this is aspected by sun from 5th house this could mean lord shiva as the ishtadevta of the native.
awaiting your reply.
your eternal well-wisher,
arnab
January 8th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Hi Rafal,
I was reading about curses that you had written in a community. You mentioned there that in case the AK is involved in a curse, then only the puja of the atmalinga can help. What is the atmalinga? And how does one do puja or atmalinga or is there any mantra for it?
-Regards
Rajesh
January 8th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
||hare ramakrishna||
dear rajesh,
atmalinga is the linga form of shiva who is worshipped as per the placement of ak in rasi chart.
mesha — rameshwaram
vrishabh– somnath
mithun — nageshwar
karka — omkarareshwar
simha — vaidyanath
kanya — malikarjuna
thula — mahakaleshwara
vrishik — grushmeshwara
dhanu — vishwanath
makar — bhimashankar
kumbha — kedaranath
meena — trayambakeshwara
the mantra is followed by shiv panchakshari mantra of om namah shivaya namah[name of the jyotirlinga in which ak is placed]
dear rafal,
if ak is involved in a curse or severely afflicted , arent we suppose to worship the atmalinga form of the rasi where ak gets exalted to reduce the sufferings.
awaiting your valuable insight.
your eternal well-wisher,
arnab
January 8th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Hi Arnab,
Thanks for the detailed information. I could not understand one part.
“the mantra is followed by shiv panchakshari mantra of om namah shivaya namah[name of the jyotirlinga in which ak is placed]”
Could give an example pls for the mahakaleshwar jyotirlinga?
Thanks in advance
-Rajesh
January 8th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
hare rama krsna
Dear Members, Namaskar
Ad.singh
Your ishtadevata is Sri Ganesha. This Ketu aspected by two benefics gives chances of Moksha. This Ketu sits in third bhava with A7, so sexuality must be overcomed as the weakness will come from this side.
1. Are You the eldest in family, and one younger brother or rather sister who is enterprising and wants to be in foreign land? Does Younger sibling has some stomach problem?
2. Did You have some skin problmes like boils/ulcers?
You should wear yellow saphire and think about consulting/teaching. That will bring fame and success.
aRNAB
Yes, Mukti-sloka is also in BPHS (34.63).
But Surya aspects it through grahadrsti, so it will be only in Dasa of Surya. Otherwise, Sk+Sa aspecting Ke gives tapaswi sadhana. Native will have very mystical outlook on God and spirituality, but the God must be embodiment of goodness and mercy (fifth bhava in D1). So all grahas aspecting twelfth bhava are guiding towards moksha. But it must be rasidrsti.
aRNAB and Rajesh
Atmalinga and Jyotirlinga are different. Atmalinga is for taking out of bandhana, this is related to Luminaries, Rahu and Tattvas (Shiva Purana). Here we have: Sarwa, Bhava, Rudra, Ugra, Bhima, Pasupati, Ishana, Mahadev.
Jyotirlingas are for perfection, full knowledge and resources (making grahas LIKE exalted). If AK is involved we should use Jyotirlinga mantra connected to exaltation-rasi for that planet.
Mahakala:
om namaH shivaaya mahakalaaya hum hum saH|
or
om namah shivaya namah mahakalaya
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
January 8th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
||hare ramakrishna||
dear rafal,
thanks again for giving us a clear approach on the ak and atmalinga.i am really becoming addicted to visit this site.Thanking you again.God bless.
your eternal well-wisher,
arnab
January 8th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Namaskar Rafal ji
Thanks for reply . i have one elder brother and youger sister ,father retd from highest post .Elder brother is unemployed ,divorce ,home sick (remain at home ) and yes younger sis is one of the few specialist doctor in u.s.a ( well settled )as per the youngest sibling ,as he is just one year old i can[t say if he is he having stomachs problem , though i have some mole on skin but have not having any skin problems like boils/ulcers. further i by profession a lawyer (advocate ).my marriage date is 11 march 2000. two sons (july 2004& 8jan 2007) i am very much intrested in share market (though with less luck on my side )so i some time doubt that my birth time may be 07.09 am ,Now it is up to u to decide
thanks
AD.Singh
waiting for
January 8th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
hare rama krsna
Dear Members, Namaskar
aRNAB
Hopefully this addiction will make You better and better with Jyotish.
Ad.singh
1. Oh.lawyer. Thats what the Jupiter (d1,d3,d10) is indicating in Your chart, very good choice. 7:11 seems fine as Jupiter would be in Martial sign in sixth bhava in Dasamsa.
2. Reg siblings: Its clear that younger sister will be very good settled abroad, im happy that this worked out here. She is doctor due to Ju-Mo Yoga in fifth bhava in D3.
Reg elder sibgling Shukra is aspecting 11 from AL, but Jupiter seems rescuing due to lordship of Dhanus. Now Jupiter is with Chandra in Libra, does he has good qualities, controlled, well-mannered, independent, sensitive and focused on profession/money?
Marriage time: 11 March 2000. Was this your 2nd relationship?
I must admit that its hard to justify with these two times birth of sons from first or second relationship..maybe it was third? is it possible? if not I think we should change the time..
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
January 8th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Hi Rafal,
Thanks once again! Just a personal question. How long have you been into jyotish? Your knowledge in jyotish is really exceptional. I learnt a lot of things just by reading you answers to various questions. Thank you once again.
-Regards
Rajesh
January 8th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
hare rama krsna
Dear Rajesh, Namaskar
Thank You for Your cudos. Im happy that the goal of this site goes on by spreading the highest knowledge of Jyotish given by the Sri Achyuta Parampara. Im putting Your words at the feet of my Jyotish Guru.
For my biography just click on “Lineage”.
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
January 10th, 2008 at 6:29 am
Hi Rafal,
Went through the lineage section. You are a student of Visti Laren. Wonderful, I have been reading his articles and analysis for quite some time now and I find him to be truely a guru in jyotish. Once again my highest regards for both of you. You guys are doing a terrific job of educating and enlightening other astrologers into the deeper aspects of jyotish. Thanks once again.
Rafal you have been into western astrology. What is the major difference between the two? Why cannot western astrology predict the future with the kind of accuracy that jyotish has? Waiting your comments on this.
-Regards
Rajesh
January 10th, 2008 at 11:11 am
hare rama krsna
Dear Rajesh, Namaskar
Thank You very much for Your appreciation.
Western astrology uses different zodiac, its much more simplified. Jyotish comes from Vedas, therefore its perfect, whilst Western Astrology is the disorted shade of it much more based on research than anything else. Depth and broadness of Vedic version of Jyotish has no equals in the world - Dasasa, Vargas, Yogas, Nakshatras, Arudhas, Argalas, Asthakavarga - these unique methods belongs to Vedanga. REAL Jyotish is holistic - therefore its connected with Ayurveda, Vedic Philosophy, Omenology, Swapna Shastra, Numerology and many many more. While the astrology branch of other traditions are much seperated from others subjects and areas of life. Jyotish is a science for helping people in higher mystical sense than just advicing about marriage, family and money. Access to past life and subconcious part of human beings allows us to guide on all levels of existence which is lacking in other tradition. When You will really dive into Vedic Wisdom everything else will become little more shallow. Kalyana Varma (Saravali) appreciaties Yavanas but still all of them crop up from the same source rooted in Vedanga.
Of course this is very sensitive topic, therefore I dont like to make some hard judgments, but I allow myself to glorify our tradition because we feel we discovered something SPECIAL.
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
January 10th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
Hello Rafal/Pandits,
I am new to Vedic Astrology, so I hope you won’t mind my ignorance on this matter. Even though I’ve read a few things on karakamsa, certain ideas still continue to baffle me.
#1 My AK is venus. I looked at my chart to find that my 12th from karakamsa is scorpio containing ketu and Jupiter. Ketu has the highest degree, so I am assuming Matsya would be my Ishta Devata?
#2 I read in one of Sanjay Rath’s articles that ketu, if placed 12th from Karakamsa alongside a benefic (as in my case), will confer higher lokas (or moksha, I am not sure), or something to that effect. Can Rafal and other experts expand on this, so we can get a better idea?
I’d greatly appreciate a response on this, rather than a link explaining it.
Warmly,
Suresh
January 11th, 2008 at 1:37 am
hare rama krsna
Dear Suresh, Namaskar
All these concept are nicely and fully explained by Parasara Rsi in Karakaamsa chapter. Whole set of planets connected to Ketu ignites spirituality oriented on PARAM GATI - moksha. How to be sure here? Look on houses which are lorded by these planets in jivanmuktamsa rasi. Best if You can choose Deity which connects these two grahas, otherwise choose Deva represented by Jupiter, and with Ketu it will give You moksha, per Jaimini and Parasara statement.
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
January 11th, 2008 at 10:30 am
Hi Rafal,
I agree with your comments. Yes jyotisha is far more wholistic in nature and in comparison western astrology often seems mere psychological.
I have one more doubt. Why did the ancient Rishi’s not make use of the outer planets. I have seen in many cases that presense of say neptune or pluto does affect an individuals nature greatly, neptune making it dreamy and fanciful. Kindly explain is point Rafal.
-Regards
Rajesh
January 11th, 2008 at 10:54 am
Dear Rafal,
Thanks for your valuable input. It helps a lot in understanding the intricacies of VA.
I did go through those passages, where karakamsa was explained and I found it to be a little diff. from what Mr. Rath has posted on his blog. That’s why I posted my doubts, in order to get it clarified.
For instance, Parashara has three conditions for moksha, namely ketu in 12th from KK, Ketu in dhanus/mesha, plus ketu conjuct (or aspected) by benefic. Whereas, Rath’s analysis of Ramakrishna’s chart (I think, but am not too sure) says ketu conjunct benefic from 12th alone would suffice, provided it’s placed in 12th from KK, regardless of the sign. How to reconcile these apparent contradictions, then? That’s the source of my confusion.
Regarding my own positions of ketu and Ju (both placed in 12th from karakamsa in scorpio), is it good from a spiritual point of view or moksha? I’d very much like to know.
Again, thanks so much for taking the time to clarify these doubts.
Warmly,
Suresh
January 11th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
hare rama krsna
Dear Rajesh, Suresh, Namaskar
Rajesh
The number of planets is important (9*12=108). Jyotish system is so complete that You cant deduct or add something accorging to Your whims. Otherwise You must also add to three gunas, saptadhatus, saptarasa, saptaloka, type of letters, varnas and many more. Therefore outer planets are not recognized as grahas (which can grasp our minds) if You want to follow tradition. There are many doubts about the Pluto in the scientific world due to some recent discoveries.
Suresh
Generally Jivanmuktaamsa should be occupied by Ketu+benefics. The same applies to forth from Karakaamsa (Gati). There are also many more like Dasa running when native pass away (for mukti it should touch meena or cancer rasi in Navamsa). There should be also Brhaspati influence like a) sg/pi signs b) bhavas which Guru is karaka c) Drsti of Guru on Ishta Deva Planet. This is to ensure that native doesnt worship dark spirits. The FINAL say has Punya Chart, otherwise what is the importance of deeds and sadhana in this life when we can predict mukti when You were born.
Ju+Ke are excellent in jivanmuktaamsa rasi, but there are also other points.
Regards
Rafal Gendarz
January 11th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
Thanks a lot, Rafal Ji. It’s very helpful.
January 16th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Hi Rafal,
Was a little busy so could not reply earlier. But yes I see your logic. Also, maybe, teh orbits of the outer planets are so far off from the earth that their magnetic effects on us do not cause any major remarkable percievable changes in our lives. So maybe from this point of view and if we consider the nine planets as the channels through which the various natures of karma are distributed back to every soul/self, these outer planets are too far off to actually cause any karmic effect on us.
-Regards
Rajesh
January 16th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
hare rama krsna
Dear Rajesh, Suresh, Namaskar
Rajesh
Nope. Jyotish science doesnt accept that theory. Its not based on any of physical effects. Otherwise how You will justify Varga-Yogas which give effects based on 1) divisions of space (rasi is distance) and relation based on that divided points. There is other part of astrology which is related to physical forces (this can be used for sowing/planting - paksha of moon) but Hora Jyotish has its own holistic system which is very technical and was created from Deva’s Perfect Mind. All is related to numbers like I wrote before.
Regards
Rafal Gendarz
January 17th, 2008 at 7:07 am
Respected Guruji,
Namaskar.
You have described worshipping Atmalinga for removing Bandhana yogas. What should be the atmalinga form for KAY with Ketu ending the yoga in Meena? Guru with Shani in Dhanus in my chart?
The list of Atmalingas given by you are in what order of the tatvas?
Please shed some light on these.
Regards
Nalini
January 17th, 2008 at 8:49 am
Hi Rafal,
Well even divisions of space creating a yoga can be very well explained. Every bit of space in this universe does contain frm a very physical point of view energy as well as dark matters. They have their own intrinsic magnetism. It depends a lot of the curvature of the space/time matrix in that specific area. Which is why in case of a naked singularity or a black hole or even at the initial point of the big bang, curvature of space time is said to be mathematically reach a point of infinity which creates such an infinite amount of gravitational pull that even light signals cant escape. This space time curvature is the reasons why planets have their gravitational pull. So the point is even space by which we generally mean lack of visible objects also has its own undeniable effects. I think the ancient Rishis, the seers, who were incredibly wise beings “saw” and “understood” these spacial magnetism and deviced the yogas based on the points of special space time curvature apart frm theg normal planetary influences. Energy can of course never be seen, its only the effects caused by the energy which are visible, concievable and measurable (in some cases). We do not see the flowing of energy in case of electromagetism but its existence cannot be contested. So the point is energy exists and works in ways which are often not percieable by the ordinary five senses. But its effects definitely are. And as Lahiri Mahasaya used to say which is also the dictum in many occult circles, as is there in the worlds, planes beyond, so is there in this physical plane. Every thing has a sort of mirror imaging of the universal ideas and realities. Hence jyotish too has both an unseen as well as seen(physical)mappings (correspondences). The numbers perfectly add up because the system of jyotish is so holistic. Its an indication of the holistic nature of the art of jyotish which is deep down a system of technically ascertaining various energy fields and their effects. Which is why a sufficiently developed/spiritually evolved individual can make uncannily accurate predictions without even knowing the name of the other person with plain “intution”. I have met such people. Thats because he has the ability to tune into the energies and “see” the future. But energies have a very physical source and astral mappings. I have seen and observed such people very closely for sufficient lengths of time and that drives me to this conclusion.
-Regards
Rajesh
January 18th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
hare rama krsna
Dear Rajesh, Suresh, Namaskar
Nalini
Its a part of Jaimini Course 2007, so I will keep it to myself for now.
Rajesh
Now You dived into very deep physics. The point is that according to Jataka Parijata Dasas distribute karma. Behind Dasas stand Grahas (grasping mind - Grahas, grasping body - Upagrahas), and beyond them stand Deva. So its starts becoming more personal than mechanical. Im happy that Your approach into Jyotish is very philosophical.
Regards
Rafal Gendarz
January 21st, 2008 at 11:52 am
Respected Guruji,
Please highlight my Ista Devata, Dharma Devata.
DOB: 24.10.1970 Time: 11.55 pm IST. Day Saturday
Place of Birth: Coimbatore.
Thanks and Regards,
January 21st, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Dear K.Kodandraraman,
Please dont paste Your question everywhere, this site doesnt like spams.
Ishta Devata (Vishnu/Varahadev); Dharma Devata (Shiva or Rama).
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
January 21st, 2008 at 5:07 pm
hare ramakrishna
dear rafal,
i guess the reply was for mr.kodandraman lakshman regarding the querry of ishta devta.
your eternal well-wisher,
arnab
January 21st, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Hi Rafal,
Thanks and yes I see what you mean and agree to it from the traditional jyotish point of view.
Tell me something Rafal, if i am seeing the chart or someone who is not hindu then would i still advice such a person to pray to the istha devata? or should i advice such a person to pray to his/her deity in whatever religion he belongs to?
-Regards
Rajesh
January 22nd, 2008 at 7:24 am
Respected Guruji,
I am extremely sorry for the mistake. please forgive me.
K.Lakshman
January 22nd, 2008 at 6:26 pm
DEAR Rafal Gendarz JI
NEED URGENT AND EFFECTIVE REMEDIE..I HAVE INVESTED HEAVILY IN STOCK MARKET IN INDIA AND CURRENTLY FEARING LOTS/TONS OF LOSES ..I AM WEARING YELLOW AGATE STONE …SO DO TELL ANY QUECK AND EASIEST REMEDIE FOR GETTING PROFIT FROM SHARES INVESTMENT…I HAVE ALSO WEARING CAT EYE STONE IN MIDDLE FINGER WHICH I TODAY DISLODGED . DOB 19 MAY 1970 AT 7.12 AM (OR 7.10AM) CHANDIGARH .PUNJAB.INDIA
THANKS
AD SINGH
January 23rd, 2008 at 1:54 am
hare rama krsna
Dear Ad Singh, Namaskar
Ad Singh
This is not good way for approaching astrologer. I refer You to prasna marga or consultation column.
Regards
Rafal Gendarz
January 27th, 2008 at 8:34 am
Hi Rafal,
I wanted to ask something.. if the palana devata becomes same as the atmakarak graha is there any special rule in that case? Or we accpet it normally…
January 27th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
hare rama krsna
Dear Rajesh, Namaskar
Rajesh
Reg form. Normally Palana devata should be worshipped in the form of Mahavidya, some say Vishnu (sustainer).
Reg. Deity. Yes, you can use Atmakaraka planet. Difference is with Ishta Devata: when this graha is ALSO Atmakaraka then when You are not God, You should use yuti or rasi drsti planet to indicate Ishtadeva. Best if this planet also i) yuti ketu or ii) is placed in Navamsa trikona.
Regards
Rafal Gendarz
January 27th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
Dear Rafal ji,
I just want to clear my doubt about my Ishta Devta and mantra according to karakamsa rule should i worship kurma avatara of vishnu and worship bhimashankar for strengthening my AK or should i worship any other god.I have a small idol of Ganesha and Image of Goddess Lakshmi in my room which i worship…you have said that one would meet his Guru at the invocation of 9th house from karakamsa…should i have to wait too long…would that be possible only after 2013..
[Born on 10th sep 1983,8:50am,trivandrum,kerala,India]
I consider this a great pleasure that i was able to discover this website where you are providing immense knowledge about this divine science imparting knowledge to all who seeks knowledge about vedic astrology…
please keep up this divine venture of clearing doubts of the astro students….
Thank you very much.
May you be blessed with health and wealth…
January 27th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
hare rama krsna
Dear Vinay, Namaskar
Thank You for Your words.
Ishta Deva is Koorma Avatara/Sri Narayana.
Meeting Guru can be also in Guru Dasa at it sits in 9 from Karakaamsa and aspecting Karakaamsa. With Mo+Sa (kalika yoga) in Lagna you can sacrifice for community, you will be quite emotional and will have good position due to 10L in Lagna. Mars debilitated in 10H bhava will give wealth especially when aspected by Ju. For Kalamrta Yoga worship Tara or wear Yellow Saphire, otherwise wait until 30′ties.
Regards
Rafal Gendarz
January 28th, 2008 at 6:47 am
Hi Rafal,
Thanks once again for clearing my confusion!.. What you said makes perfect sense. Really amazing -:)
-Regards
Rajesh
January 28th, 2008 at 9:26 am
Dear Rafal ji,Namasthe
thank you very much for your insightful words….
So i have to select between “om namo narayanaya” or koorma avatara mantra….whats the role of amtya karaka?if there is no planet in 12th from karakaamsa and thee is planet in 6th from amatya karaka….then also should we stick on with the karakamsa rule itself for judging Ishta devata?
please forgive if i am stretching it too long…!
i m a final year law student.
once again thank you very much..
vinay.v
January 28th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
hare rama krsna
Dear Vinay, Namaskar
Stick to Narayana, as when ID has nothing to do with Dharmadevata, Palanadevata or Gurudevata we advise Pratyadhi deva which is Sri Narayana.
Regards
Rafal Gendarz
January 28th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Dear Rafal ji,Namasthe
Thank you very much for your advice…I will start worshiping Lord Narayana.wishing you all the best in all your ventures.
Regards
vinay.v
January 31st, 2008 at 2:11 pm
Dear Rafal,
Wrt the Ashta-murti of Shiva and the 8 petals (representing the Atmalinga), the other 7 being understood, how is “Kshetragya” (Pashupati) equated with Rahu?
Many thanx
SS
February 2nd, 2008 at 8:29 pm
hare rama krsna
Dear Soul Sadhak, Namaskar
Im glad to see You here.
This topic is quite new (Jaimini 07 course) and refers to state of bondage. We cure this problem by perscribing one of eight atma-lingas which are helping to resolve that situation. Petals on Anahata chakra refers to eight charakarakas which shows purpose and cause of life in the current body.
So for Budha we have Sarwalinga, for Shukra Bhava-, for Mangal Rudra, for Shani Ugra, for Guru Bhima, for Rahu Pasupati, for Surya Ishana and for Moon Mahadeva.
Indeed, I was advised to recite Om Namah Shivaya Rudralingaya Ram Ram Sah for my Mangal problem in chart.
Regards
Rafal Gendarz
February 3rd, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Hi Rafal,
Came across your wonderful website and learnt a LOT about jyotish just by reading your replies to the various question. My heartiest congratulation to you for trying to speard the real knowledge of jyotish among people who are eager to learn.
Although this is not the right thread for it, I would request you to kindly explain the use of the various amsa deities of the d20 chart in findling out spiritual potential of the chart. It will be really wonderful if you could do so. Thanks in advance
-Rajarshi
February 4th, 2008 at 10:03 am
Thanks Rafal
indeed it is interesting to observe the correspondence between Jyotirlingas and rasis; the Atmalingas and Grahas/charakarakas. As in Shiva Purana, Shiva is described in these 8 forms as the field and the knower of the field(hence corresponding to the tattvas, luminaries and kshetragya) - it’s easy to derive the correspondence b/w the luminaries and tattva forms, but i cud’nt grasp why Ra (of the 8 charakarakas) would be assigned to represent Kshetragya (Knower of the field).
Interestingly enough, the Pancha-mahabhoota temples of Shiva and 3 others, corresponding to the remaining 3 forms exist, much like the 12 Jyotirlinga temples.
Elsewhere, in other puranas (?Markandeya, Brahmanda), Rudra is signified as Su, who with His Shakti Suvarchala produced Shani, while Mahadeva (~Mo) with Rohini produced Buddha (Mer), Bhava (~ water) with Usa/Dhatri produced Shukra (Ve) etc. However, in this classification, the progeny includes only 4 grahas (Sa, Ve, Ma, Me) and rest are Manojava, Skanda, Svarga, Santana - which ofcourse i dont understand if they have any correspondence within the 8-charakaraka scheme - any thoughts?
Many Thanx
SS
February 4th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Hi SS/Rafal,
Was reading the earlier posts. One interesting thought struck me. You have referred to the Kshetragya or the knower of the field. Now in the agamas specially Bhairavi tantra and Rudya Yamala Tantra, Shiva in his form as Bhairava is refered to as kshetrgya and therefore he becomes Kshetrapala. Now as you have mentioned Rahu is assigned to refer to Kshetragya, or Pashupati. Now in the tantrik traditions, the lowest class of sadhaka is the pashu or one still bound by his animal instincts and Bhairava in the form of Pashupati (Lord of the animals) is to be worshipped in such cases. Ra is the planet that causes rebirth and hence the maximum attachments for material things, something similar to the pashu nature which the tantras speak of. Maybe that could be one logic for this. Just my thoughts.
-Rajarshi
February 6th, 2008 at 12:32 am
hare rama krsna
Dear Rajarsi, Namaskar
Thank You for Your words. Im glad that You are learning from this site. I used to do the same.
D20-Amsa Devatas are the various names of Spiritual Mother. This division refers to Adi Shankara statement : Gatistvam Gatistvam tvam eka bhavani. In this categorization Devi ensures that our Gati towardsa Ishta Deva is clear.
So I was taught, that to ensure spiritual success we can add Ishta-Devata-Devi name to our Ishta Deva mantra. This will make our path free of any obstacles. We worship Devi of Istha Devata in D20 to remove all problems on our path towards mukti.
Usage of Lagna-Devata is to establish spirituality.
Soul Sadhak
If we talk about that Shiva Purana sloka about eight types of bandhana, then Sun shows ahamkara, Chandra shows Mana, Rahu shows prakrti, while the rest of planet refers to 5 Tattvas.
Infact Saravali states that Rahu stands for Ahamkara. Ive never heard about the second categorization (which You make in the last paragraph) so I cant comment. Im very happy and inspired that You are discussing all these spiritual and deep issues.
Regards
Rafal Gendarz
February 6th, 2008 at 7:12 am
Hi Rafal,
I don’t disagree with what is mentioned in Shiva Purana, or that forms of Shiva that represent the tattvas and the luminaries and the Knower of It All. If one goes to Ganesha Atharvasheersha, then Ganesha is manifest as all tattvas - and if one goes to Devi Mahatmaya - ten Shakti is the one that manifests as Creation - the idea in the scriptures is to understand the Oneness of the Creation - nothing more (i believe you know that, but i wrote just to put things into perspective).
Coming back to the classifications we are talking about, the one you have mentioned above is from the Shatarudra Samhita (of Shiva Purana) that i quote below:
“SharvoBhavastathaa Rudra Ugrobheemaha Pashopatihi
Eeshaanashcha Mahadevo Moortyschaashtvishrutaaha II3II
BhoomyAmbho_AgniMarudhVyomaKsheytragyarkNishaakaraha I
Adhishtascha Sharvaadyayaashtaroopayi Shivasya hi II 4 II”
Sharva ~ Bhoomi (Earth/Prithvi)
Bhava ~ Ambu (Water / Jala)
Rudra ~ Agni (Fire/Agni)
Ugra ~ Marut (Vayu / Air)
Bheema ~ Vyoma (Akaasha)
Pashupati ~ Kshetragya (Knower of the field)
Eeshana ~ Arka (Sun)
Mahadeva ~ Nishaakara (Moon)
While the other one that i mentioned, incidentally is also mentioned in Shiva Purana itself (though it doesnt mention the above said Shakti_s) in the Vayaviya Samhita which i quote below:
ShivPurana – Vayaveeya Samhita, Poorvakhanda: Adhyaya 12
“Namaste Bhagwan Rudra Bhaskaraamita_tejasey
Namo Bhavaya devaya rasaambumayaatmane
Sharvaaya Kshitiroopaya Nandisurabhaye namah II 41II
Eeshaaya vasave tubhyam Namas_sparshmayaatmane
Pashunaam Pataye Chaiv Paavakaayatitejase
Bheemaya Vyomaroopaya Shabdmaatraaya te Namah II42II
Ugraayograsvaroopaya Yajamaanatmane Namah
Mahaadevaya Somaaya Namostavamritmoortaye II43II”
Rudra = Bhaskara = Sun
Bhava = rasa = taste (~ Jala/Water)
Sharva = kshiti = Earth/Prithvi
Eeshana = sparsha = touch (~ Vayu/Air)
Pashupati = Paavaka = (Agni/Fire)
Bheema = Vyoma, shabda = Aakasha, sound
Ugra = Yajamaana (overseer of the yagya)
Mahadeva = Soma = Moon
Between the 2:
Bhava, Sharva, Bheema and Mahadeva remain same,
but the other 4 vary.
So which one to follow still can be a question.
Personally, i think, the basic idea is for us to know that it is the Supreme that manifests as The Universe (made of tattvas and the rest of the atributes) and our Limited Self_s (atma, mana, body etc) are also very much a part of this Whole (One with The Creation)
- we can give the Supreme whatever name - but IT is just IS…basically words cannot ever describe IT - yet, it is good to have some Name - some Indicator for our limited or illusioned Mind to latch on to and make it
Connect to The Supreme.
Many thanx
SS
February 6th, 2008 at 11:33 am
hare rama krsna
Dear Soul Sadhak, Namaskar
Based on Parampara teaching for Atmalinga, we use the former scheme. While the second should have some other usage. I appreciate Your efforts and of course I agree to the idea in Your first paragraph.
Regards
Rafal Gendarz
February 6th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Dear Rafal,
I came across a lecture of Snajy Rath regarding Istha devata. Now incase there are no planets in the jeevanmuktamsa he mentions the following paragraph..
“If there are none in the 12th house then the planetary aspects in the 2nd house should be determined. In this case the aspects of the signs alone are to be used as the deities do not exist in a “human body”…the planetary aspect determins the direction of the deity and teh deity itself”..
So in case there are no planets in the 12th frmo karakamsa should we see the 2nd house from karakamsa?
Kindly clarify this query.
-Rajarshi
February 6th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
hare rama krsna
Dear Rajarsi, Namaskar
Ive never heard about it, and I suppose its a mistake. In VRA You will find Sanjayji advising to see aspects on 12H from Karakamsa, but to be exact that will indicate Devas who are helping You in spiritual path, who are guiding You to Ishta Deva. Especially when these planets are in kona to Navamsa Lagna, or yuti Ketu.
BUT the real examination is always related to 12H from Karaakamsa - yuti or lordship.
Regards
Rafal Gendarz
February 7th, 2008 at 7:13 am
Dear Rafal,
Thanks a lot for clarifying. I got confusd initially. Thanks for explaining -:)
-Rajarshi
February 8th, 2008 at 7:22 am
OMM GURUVYE NAMAH
RESPECTED RAFALJI,
I M A SILENT DISCIPLE OF S.RATH,VISTIJI AND RAFALJI LIKE “EKLAVYA”,SOMETIMES I M CONFUSED ABOUT MY BIRTH TIME AND CHART AND CAN’T GET MY ISTADEVATA,PALAN DEVATA & GURU DEVATA.PLEASE CORRECT IT WITH YOUR DIVINE KNOWLEDGE AND BLESSINGS.4th.May 1968,05:30am ,Cuttack,India IS MY BIRTH DATA AS MENTIONED BY MY FATHER IN MY HOROSCOPE MADE BY N
ORTH INDIAN ASTROLOGER ,SHOWS KARKA RASSI ,MEANS MOON IN CANCER.BUT A SENIOR ASTROLOGER FROM ORISSA (EASTERN)SHOWS THAT MOON IS IN GEMINI (MITHUNA)RAASI.I AM A BIT CONFUSED HERE COZ MOON IN MITHUNA OR GEMINI MEANS IT ACHIEVED HIGHEST DEGREES -AK IN MY CAHRT AS WELL AS MOON IN CANCER MEANS THAT IT ACHIEVED LOWEST DEGREEES-DK (MAY BE ITS A RASSI-SANDHI BIRTH)-I GUESS .SO PLEASE HELP ME TO GET MY-PROPER AK,ID,PD AND GD.
THANK YOU ,
WITH DEEP RESPECT ,
DEEPAK MODI
February 8th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
hare rama krsna
Dear Deepak, Namaskar
In Your chart, its a peculiar situation, as AK is in Rasi Sandhi occupying 29 degree. Moon changes it sign in span of 8 minutes. So as You can suspect this requires rectification.
Hits:
1.If You have Moon in third, then You are able cook.
2.If Moon is in third, then You are quite emotional and sensitive person.
3. If Moon is in Mithuna Rasi, then Ra/Sa would be in tenth. This doesnt bode well for Your career prosperity.
While when Moon is in Karka Rasi then You should have support for Your career in period of: 1987-1989.
So if these three points are appealing to You then:
AK is Chandra.
ID is Lakshmi.
These two are right anyway:
PD is Lakshmi.
GD is Shiva.
Regards
Rafal Gendarz
February 9th, 2008 at 7:32 am
OMM GURUVYE NAMAH
RESPECTED RAFALJI,
I M A SENSITIVE AND EMOTIONAL PERSON NO DOUBT,BUT I HATE COOKING,INFACT I NEVER GO NEAR TO COOKING FIRE.ITS ALSO TRUE THAT I HAVE STARTED MY CAREER IN DEC.1989 AS A CIVIL CONTRACTOR AND NOT SO MUCH PROSPER IN MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE.I M VERY MUCH THANKFUL TO YOU FOR YOUR ADVICES AND REQUEST YOU TO GUIDE ME TO HAVE A SPIRITUAL PATH TOWARDS MY ISTA DEVATA,PALAN DEVATA AND GURU DEVATA.
WITH DEEP RESPECT,
DEEPAK MODI
February 9th, 2008 at 7:39 am
hare rama krsna
Dear Deepak, Namaskar
Then Karka rasi seems more correct. What about Your siblings and jobs (with timing please)?
Regards
Rafal Gendarz
February 10th, 2008 at 5:19 am
OMM GURUVYE NAMAH
RESPECTED RAFALJI,
I HAVE ONE ELDER BROTHER-SANJAY ,TWO YOUNGER SISTERS -KAVITA & SUNITA THEN ONE YOUNGER BRO.-KAMAL RESPECTIVELY
BUT HAVE NO BIRTH DATA .I HAVE LEFT MY PARENTS FAMILY AND LIVE ALONE SINCE 1989 AND MARRIED IN NOV 29TH 1999. GOT A FEMALE CHILD ON 12TH NOV.2000 / 4.00PM (SAMRIDDHI) & A MALE CHILD ON 28TH NOV /11.52AM 2002(SUMIRAN).REGARDING MY JOB, I USE TO CONSTRUCT RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS FOR LAST 18 YEARS ,BUT NOT SO MUCH FINANCIALLY SUCESSFULL, AND PART TIMER HONORARY ASTROLOGER FOR LOCAL PEOPLE.
PLEASE SHOW ME A CORRECT PATH TO ACHIEVE SUCESS AND PEACE
IN MY LIFE O’ MY LORD MY GURUDEV I BEG UPON YOUR LOTUS-FEET FOREVER
THANK YOU ,
WITH DEEP RESPECT ,
DEEPAK MODI
February 10th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
hare rama krsna
Dear Deepak, Namaskar
Im pretty convinced that Your Chandra should be in Karka Rasi. This is based on Your career timings. According to that you have Shani AK, and Vishnu as Istha Devata.
The most advisable remedy according to Your chart is definitely worship of Brghu with Mantra: Om Bhargavaaya Namah.
You have curse of Budha in second bhava, which afflicts financial and proffesional side of Your life. Shukra as dispositor is placed in Lagna, so worshipping of Brghu I would recommend as most suitable remedy for You.
Hope this helps.
Regards
Rafal Gendarz
February 10th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
hare ramakrsna,
dear rafal,pranaam
1]what is the role of ak in d20 and how does it guides the native to spirtuality.
2]what is the role of ishta devta in d20?
3]do we need to give importance to grahamallika yoga in d20 for spirtuality especially where starting and ending planet in the gmy is ak?
please throw some light on grahamalika yoga if possible.
Thanking you.
your eternal well-wisher,
arnab
February 10th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
correction: kindly note in the querry 3 the starting or ending of the gmy is ak.
February 10th, 2008 at 11:54 pm
hare rama krsna
Dear aRNAB, Namaskar
1. Lagnesh, Sun and AK positions should be carefully examined in Vimsaamsa to describe ones approach towards spirituality. Of course AK position will be the most essential, inner and crucial. This usually becomes visible when the spirituality is practiced seriously. That means serious desire to satisfy God or become truly aware of owns absolute position in this material world. Shukra and Budha motivation in uplifting the conciousness are real obstacles in moving from karma-kanda into jnana or bhakti kanda.
2. Examine the sambandha between ID and BK with relation to AK. That will show how God and Guru are easily available in Your upasaana. The same can be done in D1 and D9, but then You must know how it differs. This is easy when You are aware what is the essence and real meaning of particular divisional chart.
3. Yes, grahamalika should be taken into account in all Vargas. Just mix the principles to jump from novice to mediocre Jyotisha.
Regards
Rafal Gendarz
February 11th, 2008 at 7:35 am
Hello Rafal,
I have some questions regarding the previous posts and also I would like to than Arnab for asking the questions on vimsamsa.
In your reply yo Deepak you have mentioned worship of Brigu rishi for sukra. Could you kindly enlighten me on which rishis are connected to the otehr planets. It would be really helpful.
Also I did not undrstand that statememt that shukra and buddha motivation causing problem. If possible kindly elaborate with an example. Thanks in advance.
-Regards
Rajarshi
February 11th, 2008 at 7:57 am
Dear Rafal,
One more question. What is the significance of the 8th house in the vimsamsa.
-Rajarshi
February 11th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
hare rama krsna
Dear Rajarsi, Namaskar
1. For Guru rupas, please download pdf ‘Devatas’ from this site and there is a table for that.
2. Rajasic traits gives bheda (seperation) where You rather try to seek personal gains, than unmotivated spiritual evolution. So when these rajasic grahas are in apoklima to Arudha Lagna then its more easy to follow stricte spirituality. Check Srila Prabhupada’s and other Saints charts. I think You are aware of these rules.
3. Eight bhava in D20 is karyabhava - controlling house of Varga. It shows how and when we transform. If Budha and Shukra are debilitated then its easy to give up passions, and if they are influencing eight bhava this helps You in Your spiritual pursuits. Again refer to Srila Prabhupada Vimshaamsa.
Regards
Rafal Gendarz
February 14th, 2008 at 7:27 am
Dear Rafal,
Thanks for clarifying again! So do we look at rajasik grahas at apalokima to AL even in d20 chart? Or is it only in rasi chart?
I was reading a jyotish blog from where it was mentioned that that the tithi lord ruling the tithi formed between the AK and AMK in rasi chart aspects the 8th bhava in d20 for mysticism.. Can you explain to me a bit more.. what the rule actually says..
-Rajarshi
February 14th, 2008 at 11:26 am
hare rama krsna
Dear Rajarsi, Namaskar
1. This should be seen in Rasi Chart.
2. I dont know this rule. What is the source?
Regards
Rafal Gendarz
February 14th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Hi Rafal,
I am quoting from the writings…”While Sun and Moon show the universal soul and the mind, I was taught that atma karaka (AK) and amatya karaka (AmK) show the individual soul and the individual consciousness. Just as you find a tithi from the longitudes of Sun and Moon, you can find a “karaka tithi” from the longitudes of AK and AmK. Just as the normal tithi physically shows the phase of Moon and how much of Sun’s light Moon is reflecting, this karaka tithi shows the phase of individual consciousness and how much of the light held by the soul is reflected by the consciousness. As per tradition, this karaka tithi is supposed to be important for the native’s spirituality. It throws light into the purpose of creation of the person. Its lord controls the spiritual well-being of the person. In the charts of most of the mystics, you will find an association between the lord of the karaka tithi and the 8th house in D-20 or atleast navamsa”….
http://sanjayprabhakaran.blogspot.com/2005/08/karaka-tithi-kundalini-spirituality.html
-Rajarshi
February 14th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
hare rama krsna
Dear Rajarsi, Namaskar
Tithi can be also counted for houses, like we have Santana for children. This is also very interesting as we play here on the ground of Charakarakas. I would like to see how this rule work with charts..this again demands rectified Vimshamsas. I was also taught to see Jyotirlinga Tithi to know the cause of birth.
Regards
Rafal Gendarz
February 15th, 2008 at 7:29 am
Hi Rafal,
Yes I have been trying to apply this principle and seeing how they work in charts but I had a confusion. After finding the tithi do we take the tithi lord as per kalchakra?
BY which I mean after frinding the degrees gained by the amk from the ak, we divide it by 12 and count from sukla pratipad and find the tithi. Then we take the lord of the tithi from the kalchakra. I am not sure if that is the method. If so then I dont think this rule is much valid as I have seen quite a few charts of both spiritual as well as non spiritual people and the rule does not work.
Maybe the tithi calculation is different. Kindly enlighten me more of this topic.
Also very interesting to know that the jyotirlinga tithi is teh cause of birth. Do you mean the tithi at birth which is connected to specific jyotirlinga?.. If you could just provide an example it would be wonderful Rafal.
Thanks once again. Like always, I love you site:)
-Rajarshi
February 16th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Dear Rafal,
Continuing wrt Atmalinga, if i infer correctly, the Atmalinga of the planet conjoining the AK in navamsa should be preferred - is this so especially if the conjoining planet is a malefic (as in your case - Ma conj Ju) or does it hold for a benefic conjoining as well?
Also, what do we do if:
1. Ketu conjoins AK?
2. More than one planet conjoins AK?
Many Thanx
SS
February 25th, 2008 at 10:55 am
Hi RafalJi,
I am learning astrology and the articles in this site are really helpful for begineers like me.
I have a question reading my Son’s Ishta Devata.
My Sons birth details are :
Date : 30-07-2007.
Place: Kadapa (78E49, 14N28)
Time : 2:51AM IST
The AK is Mercury and is in Tarus Navamsa. Saturn and Moon are in Aries Navamsa. Moon becomes the ID as Saturn is debilitated and having lesser degree than Moon. Now does he need to pray Sri Krishna or Gouri devi? Since Moon is in Malefic Rasi, does he need to worship Ugra roopa devata like Durga devi?
Can I coin my son’s name according to the ID? Will it be helpful to him?
I have a question on my Ishta Devata.
Here are my birth details
Date : 13-04-1978
Place : Proddatur (78E32, 14N38)
Time : 4:35AM IST
In my chart, Sun is Ak vargottama in Pisces. Since there are no planets in Aquarius Navamsa, Saturn becomes the ID. And Saturn is in Aries along with Rahu in Navamsa, where Rahu is having more degrees than Saturn and Saturn is debilitated. Now who will be my ID. Do I need to worship Vishnu or Durga devi.
Please let me know whom to worship and the mantra.
In my Rahu dasa I was worshiping Vishnu, and in Jupiter period (which is currently running), I am more inclined to Shiva.
Regards,
Sreedhar.
April 1st, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Dear Rafel,
May I request you to kindly identify Ishta devata, Palan devata and Guru devata from the chat of male: 16-08-1951, 0722 Hrs IST,26N57,78E36.
Sorry for so primitive question,
Thanks in advance,
Vijay Kumar
April 19th, 2008 at 11:30 am
Dear Rafel,
Please suggest my ishta devta.D.O.B-31/07/1960.Time-11-10IST
place- Delhi India
Thanks
Revti Raman Kapoor
April 20th, 2008 at 1:18 am
hare rama krsna
Dear Rajarsi, Namaskar
Tithi Jyotirlinga is interesting principle and is based on degrees of Tithi. Divide the tithi degrees by twelve and find the sign starting from Aries. My Tithi Jyotirlinga is Gemini so my cause for birth is related to spreading the knowledge of Guru (Vasuki yoga with Rahu while dispositor is in forth as Bhadra Mahapurusa).
Soul Sadhak
Atmalinga is perscribed for bandhana yogas. This is especially related to twelve house from Atmakaraka.
Vijay
These questions are not primitive. Infact if you follow the instruction to recite Ishta deva mantra then your life is saved. If you recite Dharma deva mantra then your goal in life is saved. Sincerity is the condition.
12H from Karakaamsa shows the Ishta, 9H from Karakaamsa shows the Dharma Deva.
Revti
Sri Ganesha. Dharma devata is Hrsikesha.
Regards
Rafal Gendarz
April 24th, 2008 at 11:41 am
Dear Rafal
Thanks for suggestin me my ishta devta Sr Ganesha and Dharma Devta Hrsikesh.
I request you to please suggest the mantras to be chanted for Ishta devta and Dharma Devta.Also how many minimum no of malas(108) to be chanted daily and weather both mantras can be chanted simultaneously.
Thanks
April 25th, 2008 at 11:41 am
kleem namah narasimhaaya
Dear Revati,
Check the position of Ketu in D1 and choose the aksharas number accordingly. Om Ganeshaya Namah is the standart mantra. The malas are based on the number of words for the siddhi of mantra.
Dharma Deva:
Om Namo Bhagavate Hrishikesaya.
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
April 25th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Respected Sir,
I have read article on “Ishta Devata”. I am some doubts in my mind. In VRA, it is written that “For Ishta Devata calculation, the strongest planetary influence on the twelfth house should be checked. If more than one planet is placed therein, then their placement in Exaltation/own house etc should be considered failing which, their longitude (in the rashi chart ignoring signs) is to be considered and the one with the highest longitude is to be declared the strongest, which shall determine the ishta devata”.
But Sirji, in step 2: Planets aspecting the sign: If there are none in the twelfth house, then the planetary aspects on the second house should be determined”. How ? Sirji, I am very much confused. Please please help me for Ishta devata calculation. DOB : 15/16 Apr. 1964, TOB : 00:45 Hrs. (East of GMT), POB : 74 E 46′00″, 19 N 58′00″
Sirji, please lighten my path to deity. I will be greatful to you.
Thanks with regards,
Mrs. Sunita.
April 26th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
kleem namah narasimhaaya
Dear Mrs. Revati,’
Im glad that you read VRA. Later on Sanjayji advised that after checking planet in that sign, we should consider the lord. Planets aspecting this point will show the group of the Deities which are blessing the native with the Parama Gati which is Moksha. Especially those touched by Ketu and in kona to Navamsa Lagna.
For this details:
Date: April 16, 1964
Time: 0:45:06
Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)
Place: 74 E 46′ 00″, 19 N 58′ 00″
The ishta deva is: Kali Ma!
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
April 27th, 2008 at 8:14 am
Dear Rafal,
Is the 12th house from AK that in rasi or in navamsa?
Many thanx,
SS
April 27th, 2008 at 11:58 am
kleem namah narasimhaaya
Dear Soul Sadhak,
Our parampara seeks ishtadevata in Navamsa.
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
April 27th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Hi Rafal,
Came across a very interesting chart. This guy named Jeff Warren is the leader of a polygamits cult named the Fundamentalist Cult of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, a breakaway from the original Mormom church. And they believe and practise polygamy at very large scales. Recently he was arrested and convicted.
3rd December 1955, San Francisco California. Around 8:30 am.
The AK being with nodes and shani in a parivraj yoga and in 12th house maybe the reason of his imprisonment?
It would be great if you could analyse this chart a bit.
-Regards
Rajarshi
April 28th, 2008 at 8:10 am
Respected sir,
Thank you very much. Please explain me about determination of “ishta devata”. You have suggested that “Kali maa” is ishta devata for me. What should be done?
Yours sincerely,
Mrs. Sunita
April 28th, 2008 at 10:52 am
Dear Rafal,
I’m sorry - i think my question was not clear.
The question is regarding where in the chart to look for bandhana of atma wrt atmakaraka.
If i understand correctly, 12th from AK in nav is jeevanmuktamsa and Ishta devata would be worshipped to make one or atleast lead one to being jeevanmukta.
12th from AK in rasi wud be seen for any devabadhaka if present.
What you stated above wrt ur chart (atmalinga of Ma was advised to you) i dont see any coonection of Ma with 12th from AK in navamsa/rasi; rather Ma conjoins AK in Navamsa.
Hence the question.
Best regards,
SS
April 28th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
Respected Sir,
You have stated, “Kali maa” is my Ishta Devata. But how it is done? Please explain me. Thanks for your valuable time.
Best regards,
Mrs. Sunita.
April 29th, 2008 at 7:18 am
Dear SS,
Sorry for interrupting your discussion with Rafal. But the 12th AK in rasi in not devatabadhak. Debatabahdak is when the badhakesh is afflicted and the 12th from badhakesh is also having malefics and afflcited. In such a case the planets in the 12th will indicate what was the cause for the badhak as in mars indicates mutilation of idol and shani can indicate neglect/pollution etc etc.
When the nodes or shani or mars conjoins the AK it gives a feeling of bondage. Even when these conjoin the lagnesh a feeling of bondage also comes in. This is mentioned in the book Jyotish Fundamentals while explaining one example. Now if the same combination happens in house which is also malefic that can lead to physical imprisonment as well. If you look at the chart in the previous example I had given, a typical case can be seen. The person has a severe bandhana yoga in his 12th house involving the AK.
I am sure Rafal will correct if I am wrong.
-Regards
Rajarshi
April 29th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Respected Rafalji,
I request you to please suggest the answer as early as possible. It’s important for me to know how you have determined “Ishta Devata”. And please advise me which next step I have to follow ?
Thanking you with regards,
Mrs. Sunita (not Revati)
April 30th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
kleem namah narasimhaaya
Dear Rajarishi
Rajarishi
Four planets in twelfth makes the person oversexual. Mangal aspected by Ketu sits in 12H from Karaka Lagna as the dispositor of this yoga and A7. Therefore the imprisonment due to sexual misuse. There is also bandhanayoga for L (6,8), AL (5,9) and AK (2,12).
Your second post is right.
Soul Sadhak
Yes for bondage like jail etc. 12 from Karaka Lagna. For release of bondage - 12 from Karakaamsa. 12 from Badhaksthan - Deva Badhak.
Sunita
AK is Mangal. 12L from AK is Vrscika with two lords : a) Ketu and b) Mangal. Mangal is stronger. Mangal cant be the Ishta and Atma therefore Shani takes the role of Ishta. Shani will take role of the mother if 6L from AmK is involved - it is. Therefore the Shani Vesha of Mother is Kali.
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
April 30th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Dear Rafal,
Thanks once again for replying. Really appreciate it.
-Regards
Rajarshi
April 30th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Sukra is placed in ninth from AK. But Sukra is Pitrukaraka. Sir, please again explain, “Shani takes the role of Ishta. Shani will take role of the mother if 6L from AmK is involved”. Why 6th lord from AmK?
Sir, 6th lord from AmK will be “Palan Devata”. Isn’t it?
Sir, please correct me if I am mistaken. I am beginner in this field. So please guide me in a right way, so that I can stand right in yours students’ list.
Sir, I want to be. Please answer me as early as possible.
Thanking you with regards,
Yours sincerely,
Mrs. Sunita.
May 4th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Respected Sir,
You have stated, “Kali maa” is my Ishta Devata. But how? I posted a comment on 30th Apr. Please give reply sir. I am very much confused. Thanks for your valuable time.
And please guide me how to propriate the Ista Devata. Which mantra? And how we can decide about letters within mantra? That I can’t get it.
About akshara within mantra. How should we decide? Where I will get details about it?
Please enlighten Rafal ji,
Thanks with Best regards,
Mrs. Sunita.
May 4th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Thanx Rajarshi for the correction.
Dear Rafal,
So 12th from karaka lagna is seen for physical bondage (bandahna) like jail? then where do we see bondage of Atma?
Best regards,
SS
May 5th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
kleem namah narasimhaaya
Dear Members,
Soul Sadhak
Atma is always clean and free. The illusion of bondage is seen as the cause and manifestation. The first we see in Navamsa while the later we see in Rasi as attachment. Therefore Ishta Devata removes the cause of bandhana (12 from Karakaamsa). AK in D1 indicate the seriousness of problem due to inner cause. In the same manner kona to Moon versus kona to Atmakaraka defines the seriousness of depressions.
Mrs Sunita
Ive just answered how I chose Kali for Ishta. When Palana is connected to Jivanmuktaamsa then Ishta takes the role of Mother. We choose aksharas based on Rasi for manifestation in our lives, but you can just start Dakshina Kali mantra.
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
May 6th, 2008 at 8:38 am
Dear Rafal,
This is not related to istha devata but I had a question regarding arudha. I was reading a blog where it was mentioned that when the lagna lord is in 4th house it indicates protection of ganesha and when in 10th house indicates blessings of devis vahana(lion).. Is this true? And if its true what does it really mean in terms of manifestation in real life?
-Regards
Rajarshi
May 6th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
For now, i’ll keep the Illusion that i understood
Thanx.
May 6th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
kleem namah narasimhaaya
Dear Rajarishi,
I think this comes from Zoran’s blog. Its hard for me to comment to what part of life this is related, as forth is Devi whilst Tenth is usually associated with Saraswati, Indra. Seventh is for Ganesha/Shiva.
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
May 7th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Respected Rafal ji,
Thanks a lot. I am really obliged from bottom of my heart. You have given me answers always. Really I feel gratitude!
R/s Rafal ji, you told to recite Dakshina Kali mantra. Where I can get it ? And how many times should I recite it? Please give way.
Thanks once again with best regards,
Mrs. Sunita.
May 7th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Dear Rafel,
Please suggest my ishta devta.D.O.B-02 dec/1972.Time-11-15 IST
place- tumkur,India
Thanks
GSA
May 7th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Dear Rafel,
Please suggest my ishta devta.D.O.B-02 dec/1972.Time-11-15 AM IST
place- tumkur,India
Thanks
GSA
May 11th, 2008 at 1:43 am
Hello Sir,
The 12th from karakamsa is lorded by chandra and has no planet. Can you please advise on my ishta devata.
Thanks,
VRS
May 11th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
kleem namah narasimhaaya
Dear VRS,
The position from Karakaamsa is crucial. If Chandra is alone then it can make you pray to Sri Krishna, Gouri, Bhuvanesvari..
Rafal Gendarz
May 12th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
Dear Sir,
My DOB is 02 dec/1972.Time-11-15 AM IST
place- tumkur,India.
My AK is Sani and my Karakamsa(Lagnamsa and karakamsa in D-9 are the same) is Simha Rasi. The 12th from Simha Rasi, Cancer is empty. Moon is in Dhanus with Sun. Mercury is with Sani in the Karakamsa. Rahu is 4rth from Lagnamsa in D-9 and has aspect on the 12th. Can you please advise advise on my ishta devata and any mantras i should recite?
Thanks,
VRS
May 15th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Dear Rafel - Namaskara.
PLEASE suggest ishtadevata,palandevata,dharmdevata,& gurudevata for following chart.
dob- 25-11-66
tob- 6:44:00am
place- nagpur - India
Actually i am confused by all cursed planets excluding JUP. Just can’t find curse & remedy.
Regards.
Satish.
May 18th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Respected Rafal ji,
Namskar. I am really obliged from bottom of my heart. You have given your valuable time.
Please give attention to my this post. I have been posted a request on 7th May. I am eagerly waiting for your answer.
Rafal ji, you told me to recite Dakshina Kali mantra. Please make available it to me and please advice me - how many times should I recite it? Please give way.
Thanks once again with best regards,
Mrs. Sunita.
May 20th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Dear Sir,
Can you please help me with this request. I really appreciate your knowledge in this regard.
My DOB is 02 dec/1972.Time-11-15 AM IST
place- tumkur,India.
My AK is Sani and my Karakamsa(Lagnamsa and karakamsa in D-9 are the same) is Simha Rasi. The 12th from Simha Rasi, Cancer is empty. Moon is in Dhanus with Sun. Mercury is with Sani in the Karakamsa. Rahu is 4rth from Lagnamsa in D-9 and has aspect on the 12th. Can you please advise advise on my ishta devata and any mantras i should recite?
Thanks,
VRS
May 20th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
kleem namah narasimhaaya
Dear Members,
VRS
Yuti of Surya in Guru sign gives Shiva.
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
May 20th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your response. Can you please tell me my dharma devata.
Appreciate your help!
Thanks,
VRS
May 21st, 2008 at 8:08 pm
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your response. Can you please advise on mantras for ishta devata and dharma devata.
Appreciate your help!
Thanks,
VRS
May 22nd, 2008 at 4:52 pm
Dear Sir,
Can you please advise on mantras for ishta devata and dharma devata.
Appreciate your help!
Thanks,
VRS
May 23rd, 2008 at 2:55 pm
kleem namah narasimhaaya
Dear Members,
VRS
Dharma devata is seen by analyzing 9H/L from Karakaamsa, the mantras are in the pdf document.
Regards,
Rafal Gendarz
May 24th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Respected Rafal ji,
Namskar. I am really obliged from bottom of my heart. You have given your valuable time. Can you please help me with this request?
Please give attention to my this post. I have been posted a request on 7th May & on 18 th May. I am eagerly waiting for your valuable answer.
Rafal ji, you told me to recite Dakshina Kali mantra. Please make available it to me and please advice me - how many times should I recite it? Please give way.
Thanks once again with best regards,
Yours sincerely,
Mrs. Sunita.
June 14th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
Dear Rafalji,
namaskar.
my atmakaraka is moon and karakamsa is dhanus rashi. 12th from dhanus rashi is scorpio and mercury is placed there.so the ishta devata should be lord buddha. there is a rashi parivartan yoga between mercury and ketu in navamsa. so is it change the ishta devata. personally i have always worshiped shiv. moreover in navamsha chart 9th house from moon is simha rashi whose lord sun is in conjuction with venus so the same confusion who is the dharma devata? and the bhatrukaraka is jupiter which is retrograde in rashi chart and place in second house. so sadashiv should be worshiped. as the jupiter is retrograde is it make any difference while choosing the deity?
Regards,
manasi
June 14th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Dear Rafalji,
regarding the above query my birth date:2nd oct,1986. birth time:15:48, birth place: Dhrangadhra. and the retrograde jupiter as bhatru karaka in second house what kind of guru it indicates?
thanks,
manasi
June 14th, 2008 at 6:36 pm
Dear Rafalji,
sorry, i forget to write proper birth place:Dhrangadhra,Gujarat,India.
thanks,
manasi
July 21st, 2008 at 6:04 am
Dated: 21.7.2008
Respected Sir,
Jai Mata Di !
I am Fresh Law graduate and practicing in the lower and high court of Jharkhad.
I am preparing rot the JUDICIAL JOBS also.Kindly advise that could I be albe to achieve my aim/ the Jucicial post/Job.
(If any remedy are also there in shaping my career,please advise that also)
Kindly advise me on the above request.My additional details are as follows:-
Date of Birth: 18.5.1984
Time of Birth :02.50AM
Place of Birth: Ranchi
State: JHARKHAND,INDIA
Thanking you
Kunal Nitin
Hazaribag
M-09931352412
July 30th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Rafal ji,
DOB :23-12-1982
Time :10.55 am
Place : Calcutta(West Bengal)
My ishta devata I thnk is Sri Parashurama.Is it correct?
I have an attraction to worship Maa Tara what is its astrological significance?
My ista graha lord Venus is combust in natal chart amidst a parivrajaya yoga in 11th house.What does this mean?
When will I meet with my spiritual mentor?
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:34 am
Dear Sir,
Kindly enlighten me regarding a query of mine. I wish to know who my Ista should be and with what mantra should I wordhip Him/Her? My date of birth is 17 July 1985 at 8:30pm at Dibrugarh, Assam, India.
Very grateful for your kind help. Thank you!!
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:45 am
Namaskar Sri Rafal,
1 As per different jyotish traditions and scriptures its Ketu who grants the moksha karaka.Incase ketu has sambhanda of dristi or conjunction with either of the ishta devta ,dharma devta or gurudevta- will worshiping that deity make a person more determined towards the fulfillment of his spirtual purpose.
2-when the lord of karkamsa lagna becomes the ishtadevta - can we still worship the deity??
expecting your replies on these querries.May Lord Narasimha bless you.
Regards,
samiksha
August 25th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Hi!
Thx for this article which is of utmost help. I am finding myself in a bit of confusion regarding the chart which I’m reading: I cannot find the Karakamsa from the Atmakarak since there is no rashi or grah in the 12th house from Atmakarak. (10th house being 12th from Karakamsa - Lord is Shani) So am I right in presuming that Ishta Devta is simply Lord Vishnu although there are drishtis from Mangal, Guru, Shani and Rahu from the nearby houses?
August 30th, 2008 at 6:15 am
Dear Sirs,
I tried hard to figure out my Ishta devta from my chart, can u plz help me.. I have attraction for Lord Krishna, but I rem when I was worshipping Lord ramchandra, I was having the best time of my life.
Sincerely
Nishant
August 30th, 2008 at 6:15 am
My details—
26/11/1981
16.08
Ajmer
(Rajasthan)
India